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Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset

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On 16.08.2015 14:49, Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch wrote:
> Am 16.08.2015 um 14:03 schrieb Janis Papanagnou:
>> My apologies. But I really couldn't see that an "illogical behaviour"
>> gnuplot-bug was the reason. My working thesis was that I missed something,
>> despite having read the docs and tried a lot in a trial and error fashion.
>> And since I assumed folks here are experienced, they can quickly point me
>> to the error I made.
>>
>> Usually it's good to focus on the specific observable issue; if one makes
>> a bulky post that's usually also not what people like reading.
> 
> Of course you should be succinct, but you definitely need to tell
> what exactly you tried and didn't work.

The point is (since I didn't knew it's a bug) I tried so many variants
that, for one, I couldn't post every variant I tried, and second, the
final version (the one that finally didn't threw the error message) had
that absolute offset (i.e. without 'first'). I posted what didn't work
in the last version, which I had to believe was closest to the correct
implementation.

The problem, as already said, was this "illogical [gnuplot] behaviour".
Don't expect that illogical behaviour (coupling of X specs with Y specs)
would make it sensible for posters to provide (presumedly) "unrelated"
information. In one case it could be good, in most other cases it would
be considered bulky irrelevance so that people don't want to read it at
all.

> Otherwise people are
> inclined to think you're just _saying_ you read the docs and tried
> to solve it, and bark "RTFM!" at you.

I still think people should not "think" what I might have omitted to do
("RTFM") if that "thought" results in non-informative trollish replies.
If some folks start with a "bark" instead of trying to help, well, that
tells more about those folks than about anything else. If information
is missing - and the experts here are certainly the ones who could tell
best! -, then a polite request to post the whole code (if necessary or
helpful) would certainly be the simplest reply, and least time-wasting.

> 
> The docs clearly give the solution (specify the coordinate system),
> but we didn't know it breaks with logscales, didn't even know you
> were using a logscale. So we concluded you hadn't read it.

That the problem was actually related to those (presumedly) unrelated
entities was not obvious. Mind, I am only a very casual gnuplot user,
not an expert like many of you here.

Janis

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Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-15 02:05 +0200
  Re: Xtics offset Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-08-15 12:34 +0200
    Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-15 12:57 +0200
      Re: Xtics offset Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-08-15 21:38 +0200
        [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-15 23:34 +0200
      Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 00:57 +0200
        Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 01:15 +0200
          Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 01:59 +0200
  Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 01:04 +0200
    Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 01:11 +0200
      Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 01:22 +0200
        Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 01:57 +0200
          [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 14:03 +0200
            Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 14:49 +0200
              Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 15:35 +0200
                Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Ethan A Merritt <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2015-08-17 10:26 -0700
                Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-17 21:27 +0200
        Re: Xtics offset Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch <mail.kfr@gmx.net> - 2015-08-16 02:19 +0200
          Re: Xtics offset Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-16 14:22 +0200

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