Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot Subject: Re: [meta] Re: Xtics offset Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:35:58 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 78ZYNjsY3EY+237/nRd16Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot:3035 On 16.08.2015 14:49, Karl-Friedrich Ratzsch wrote: > Am 16.08.2015 um 14:03 schrieb Janis Papanagnou: >> My apologies. But I really couldn't see that an "illogical behaviour" >> gnuplot-bug was the reason. My working thesis was that I missed something, >> despite having read the docs and tried a lot in a trial and error fashion. >> And since I assumed folks here are experienced, they can quickly point me >> to the error I made. >> >> Usually it's good to focus on the specific observable issue; if one makes >> a bulky post that's usually also not what people like reading. > > Of course you should be succinct, but you definitely need to tell > what exactly you tried and didn't work. The point is (since I didn't knew it's a bug) I tried so many variants that, for one, I couldn't post every variant I tried, and second, the final version (the one that finally didn't threw the error message) had that absolute offset (i.e. without 'first'). I posted what didn't work in the last version, which I had to believe was closest to the correct implementation. The problem, as already said, was this "illogical [gnuplot] behaviour". Don't expect that illogical behaviour (coupling of X specs with Y specs) would make it sensible for posters to provide (presumedly) "unrelated" information. In one case it could be good, in most other cases it would be considered bulky irrelevance so that people don't want to read it at all. > Otherwise people are > inclined to think you're just _saying_ you read the docs and tried > to solve it, and bark "RTFM!" at you. I still think people should not "think" what I might have omitted to do ("RTFM") if that "thought" results in non-informative trollish replies. If some folks start with a "bark" instead of trying to help, well, that tells more about those folks than about anything else. If information is missing - and the experts here are certainly the ones who could tell best! -, then a polite request to post the whole code (if necessary or helpful) would certainly be the simplest reply, and least time-wasting. > > The docs clearly give the solution (specify the coordinate system), > but we didn't know it breaks with logscales, didn't even know you > were using a logscale. So we concluded you hadn't read it. That the problem was actually related to those (presumedly) unrelated entities was not obvious. Mind, I am only a very casual gnuplot user, not an expert like many of you here. Janis