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Re: Invisible File Copy

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On 2018-01-10 19:34:29 +0000, Charles H. Sampson said:
> Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-01-08 23:39:47 +0000, Charles H. Sampson said:
>>> 
>>> I'm using FMP 16 on an iMac running 10.12.6.
>>> 
>>> When making modifications to scripts, I save a copy of the subject
>>> database on the desktop. If I really mess things up badly I can just
>>> delete the copy and start over. That's much less dangerous than trying
>>> to back out faulty changes.
>>> 
>>> Recently these saved copies don't appear on the desktop, either in a
>>> searching through the icons or by looking at a file window that displays
>>> the desktop files (sft-cmd-D). However, if I try to save a copy a second
>>> time, I get the usual message about there already being a file on the
>>> desktop of that name and asking me what I want to do about that.
>>> 
>>> ???
>>> 
>>> Charlie
>> 
>> It's not a FileMaker Pro issue. Unforunately it is a general Finder /
>> macOS X issue. I've noticed it a few times with various apps or when
>> taking screenshots, mostly with the Desktop, but also in other folders.
>> It has been happening since at least macOS X 10.7 (Lion), although I
>> seem to recall having the same issue on my old 10.2 PowerMac.
>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/recent-files-dont-appear-in-finder-
>> spotlight-shows-them.1295158/>
>> 
>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6981736>
>> 
>> It's one of the quite a few weird long-term quirks of macOS X that have
>> yet to be fixed.  :o(
>> 
>> There's some sort of problem where the Finder simply doesn't update
>> very quickly, but the files are actually there do usually show up in
>> app Open / Save windows and via the Terminal. They do eventually show
>> up in Finder as well.
>> 
>> Some people say DropBox causes it, but I have never used DropBox at
>> all. Another possibility is a Spotlight corruption.
>> 
>> I haven't seen anywhere that has permanent solution to the issue. There
>> are some workarounds that may help:
>> 
>> - rebooting
>> 
>> - keeping a Finder window open at a certain main level
>> ("All My Files", "Desktop", etc.)
>> 
>> - resaving a file using teh same name in the same location
>> (the "already exists" error often cause the Finder to update)
>> 
>> - using Finder to Duplicate a visible file (then deleting the duplicate)
>> or rename an existing file
>> 
>> - delete the Finder .plist file (you'll have to redo any Finder preferences)
>> 
>> - Force Quit Finder and relaunch it, or Control-Command-click on the
>> Finder icon in the Dock and relaunch it
>> 
>> ... or not saving files to the Desktop, since that folder seems to be
>> the one that has the most problems.
>> 
>> There is also an AppleScript / Automator script you can use as either
>> an application or Service to apparently force the Finder to refresh the
>> window, but I haven't tried it myself.
>> <http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2009091413423819>
>> Another similar script is:
>> tell application "Finder" to tell front window to update every item
> 
> Thanks, Harry. I suspected that it was a system problem rather than a
> Filemaker problem. I am surprised that it is as old as you say.
> 
> Interestingly, the problem has gone away - for me - at the moment. It
> happened shortly after I posted my question.

It does seem to come and go. It could in some cases be related to 
Spotlight being busy updating it's indexing database, but I don't know 
for sure.

Helpful Harry  :o)

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