Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers?

From	"Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com>
Newsgroups	comp.compilers
Subject	Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers?
Date	2023-10-27 16:57 +0100
Organization	Compilers Central
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On 25/10/2023 20:39, gah4 wrote:
> Not from a Quora question, but one did remind me.
>
> Which (well known) languages were mostly defined before the first
> compiler was written? (Not counting the one you did for a homework
> assignment.) ...
> [COBOL, Algol60 and 68, Ada.  Maybe Pascal? -John]

You can definitely count Ada as being defined before being
implemented. You can find the various language designs put forward by
looking for "common hol phase 1" in this group.

I don't really consider any of Wirth's languages to be designed as
they would not have the gaping big holes they have. Aiming to having
short specifications is not really a good thing, but it comes across
as half-arsed and you end up leaving a metric shit-ton of "undefined"
things that should've been defined up to the implementor, creating
"implementation defined" and incompatible variants, see Pascal,
Modula-2 and Oberon and their variants.

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Which comes first, languages or compilers? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2023-10-25 12:39 -0700
  Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-10-26 21:46 +0000
  Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? "minf...@arcor.de" <minforth@arcor.de> - 2023-10-27 03:19 -0700
  Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2023-10-27 16:57 +0100
    Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2023-10-30 04:26 +0100
      Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? OrangeFish9737 <OrangeFish9737@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-30 10:02 -0400
      Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2023-10-30 20:35 +0000
        Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2023-11-02 07:20 +0000

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