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Which comes first, languages or compilers?

From gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu>
Newsgroups comp.compilers
Subject Which comes first, languages or compilers?
Date 2023-10-25 12:39 -0700
Organization Compilers Central
Message-ID <23-10-008@comp.compilers> (permalink)

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Not from a Quora question, but one did remind me.

Which (well known) languages were mostly defined before the first
compiler was written? (Not counting the one you did for a homework
assignment.)

As well as I know it, and similar to the way IBM defined the S/360
architecture before five different groups started implementing it,
PL/I (nee NPL) was pretty much completely described before groups
started implementing it. There is a published IBM manual with that
description.

I don't count Fortran0, as I believe Knuth named an early description
before the first Fortran compiler was written.

It is somewhat convenient to adapt the language when you find parts
harder to implement than was thought. PL/I mostly didn't do that.
[COBOL, Algol60 and 68, Ada.  Maybe Pascal? -John]

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Which comes first, languages or compilers? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2023-10-25 12:39 -0700
  Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-10-26 21:46 +0000
  Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? "minf...@arcor.de" <minforth@arcor.de> - 2023-10-27 03:19 -0700
  Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2023-10-27 16:57 +0100
    Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2023-10-30 04:26 +0100
      Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? OrangeFish9737 <OrangeFish9737@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-30 10:02 -0400
      Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2023-10-30 20:35 +0000
        Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2023-11-02 07:20 +0000

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