Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages

From	Kaz Kylheku <157-073-9834@kylheku.com>
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Subject	Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages
Date	2018-12-02 12:39 -0500
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On 2018-11-24, Derek M. Jones <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> wrote:
> Louis,
>
>> You might be the person to read some of those papers and write one of
>> those books. You'll have a perspective that the language designers
>> themselves might not have had.
>
> I have enough enthusiasm to read them, not write them.
>
> Historians of computing tend to be primarily hardware based
> https://shape-of-code.coding-guidelines.com/2018/03/13/historians-of-computing/
>
> Social scientists and English majors are missing out on
> writing about an unexplored area of knowledge.

Which brings up the point that digging through historic programming
languages is not really Ph. D. level work in the field of Computer Science.

A Ph. D. thesis is supposed to be a body of research which broadens
human understanding in the subject domain.  Programming languages are
man-made stuff. They were understood quite well by their makers and
users. Someone trying to dig up info about some old language nobody uses
will end up with even less insight into it than the people who worked
with it and on it.

A survey of what cranes have been built by what machine companies, and
how they worked, wouldn't be Ph. D. work in civil engineering, would it?

[It's a fine topic for history of science, where there are plenty of
people working on computer history.  Look at the IEEE Annals of the
History of Computing. -John]

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PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2018-11-22 14:41 +0000
  Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages Fernando <pronesto@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 01:12 -0800
    Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2018-11-23 16:04 +0000
      Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.com> - 2018-11-23 15:17 -0700
        Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2018-11-24 19:49 +0000
          Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages Kaz Kylheku <157-073-9834@kylheku.com> - 2018-12-02 12:39 -0500
            Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2018-12-03 11:12 +0000
              Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Robin Vowels" <robin51@dodo.com.au> - 2018-12-08 14:31 -0500
  Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages Nick <ibeam2000@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 21:36 -0800
  Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages steve kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2018-11-24 18:58 +0000
    Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2018-11-25 00:57 +0000
      Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages Fernando <pronesto@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 12:39 -0500
  Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages gah4@u.washington.edu - 2020-02-27 18:43 -0800
    Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2020-02-28 14:28 +0000
  Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages gah4@u.washington.edu - 2020-03-06 12:30 -0800
    Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2020-03-08 21:36 +0000
      Re: PhD or books on history of individual languages George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2020-03-09 07:33 -0400

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