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On 13/02/2017 1:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 12/02/2017 5:24 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 12/02/2017 4:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>> Once upon a time on usenet Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/02/2017 2:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/02/2017 1:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It was not the greens that sold the power off but it is the green
>>>>>>>>>> inclined existing government that is running  the existing
>>>>>>>>>> renewable dependent power grid now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SA needs to install some diesel generator plant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** No they don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They may need to build a couple of natural gas plants - the kind
>>>>>>>> that use turbines and not simply boil water. Thermal
>>>>>>>> efficiencies of
>>>>>>>> 60%
>>>>>>>> are possible with 500MW turbines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's entirely a matter of the period during which they're
>>>>>>> expected to
>>>>>>> run. You don't build expensive plant that runs only hours per year,
>>>>>>> just to save on fuel. You build cheap plant, even though it uses
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> fuel, because you come out ahead economically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the planet slowly dies... Oh well perhaps they can buy a new
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the money saved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WTF is this shite doing in aus.electronics anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mainly because there is no purely electrical news group so people tend
>>>>> to lump anything electric into one group which is a better idea anyway
>>>>> Electricity is electricity no matter how it is used
>>>>
>>>> **Bullshit. Like most of your posts, it was just another thinly
>>>> disguised attacks on those who accept the reality of global warming and
>>>> that humans must address the release of CO2 in order to deal with it.
>>>> You are just another idiot denier and your posts are just political,
>>>> rather than technical.
>>>>
>>>> I cite as proof, your constant and completely erroneous claims that the
>>>> Greens caused the problems in South Australia. You are, of course
>>>> and as
>>>> usual, wrong. The electricity assets sold off by the state LIBERAL
>>>> government caused the problems faced by SA today. A fact you refuse to
>>>> accept.
>>>>
>>> Here you go off on a tangent with non electrical crap again.
>>
>> **You're not fooling anyone, you dumb shit. YOU started the thread, by
>> launching an attack on the Greens, when everyone knows it was the
>> Lieberal state government, by selling the SA electrical assets that
>> caused the problem faced by SA today.
>>
>> If YOU don't want off-topic thread in aus.electronics, then YOU should
>> not start such threads. Moreover, get your facts straight. The Greens
>> have consistently fought various state governments to prevent the sale
>> of vital electrical assets to private companies. Private companies are
>> profit-focused. They're not particularly interested in how much
>> inconvenience is caused to consumers, provided their bottom line is
>> either enhanced or not negatively affected. Governments, OTOH, are
>> always consumer (voter) focused. By selling vital infrastructure to
>> private concerns, Lieberal and Labor governments can claim: "It ain't
>> our fault." It is, of course, since the stuff should never have been
>> sold in the first place.
>>
>> Which brings us back to the only major political party that fought
>> against the sale of electrical assets - The Greens. The guys you hate
>> with such venom and irrationality, are the very party that actually
>> stand for the people. IE: You and me.
>>
>> Fuck me, you are dumber than dog-shit.
>>
>> Keep arguing with me, if if you like. I'll bury you with facts.
>>
> Facts that wander off into past problems instead of the problem that SA
> has the most expensive and at the moment most unreliable power supply
> which is under the governments control

**Again: The power generation is partly under private control. THAT is 
the problem and it was set-up by the state Lieberal government that 
privatised parts of the network.

Again: The Greens tried to stop the privatisation.

Clear?

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 13:36 +1100
  Re: I give in Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 14:08 +1100
    Re: I give in Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 19:47 -0800
      Re: I give in Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 15:13 +1100
        Re: I give in "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:15 +1300
          Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:14 +1100
            Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 16:25 +1100
              Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 17:24 +1100
                Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 08:26 +1100
                Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:52 +1100
                Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 15:50 +1100
                Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:48 +1100
                Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 17:52 +1100
                Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 20:36 +1100
                Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 06:49 +1100
                Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:51 +1100
                Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:57 +1100
                Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:30 +1100
                Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 06:34 +1100
                Re: I give in F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:38 +1100
            Re: I give in "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:47 +1300
    Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 14:58 +1100
      Re: I give in Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 15:15 +1100
        Re: I give in Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 20:28 -0800
  Re: I give in Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 14:56 +1100

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