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"Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia"

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First post2017-09-01 05:38 +0630
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  "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-01 05:38 +0630
    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-09-01 09:27 +1000
      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-01 09:56 +1000
        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-01 10:49 +1000
          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 11:19 +1000
          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-31 22:15 -0500
            Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 01:45 +1000
              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-01 12:37 -0500
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 06:10 +1000
              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 09:04 +1000
          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-01 21:40 +0800
            Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-02 08:25 +1000
              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-02 08:24 +0800
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-03 16:35 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-03 21:46 +0000
            Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 10:04 +1000
              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-02 10:15 +1000
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 10:24 +1000
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:43 +1000
              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-02 08:35 +0800
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 11:19 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ördög <devil@your.scary.shadow.edu> - 2017-09-02 02:15 +0000
                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 13:22 +1000
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:44 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-02 14:16 +1000
                          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Davy <me@here.org> - 2017-09-02 01:08 -0500
                            Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 16:10 +1000
                              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-02 01:20 -0500
                                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 18:15 +1000
                          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 09:35 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 17:54 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 05:30 +1000
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ördög <abaddon@purgatory.org.invalid> - 2017-09-02 03:48 +0000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 18:01 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 05:40 +1000
                          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 08:23 +1000
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-02 14:11 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 18:09 +1000
                          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-02 21:06 +1000
                            Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 21:29 +1000
                              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-03 00:47 +1000
                                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 07:41 +1000
                                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Annona Muricata <Magnoliale@Annonaceae.Annona.biz.invalid> - 2017-09-02 22:32 +0000
                                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 11:05 +1000
                                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 12:36 +1000
                                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 12:46 +1000
                                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-03 12:39 +1000
                                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-03 15:32 +1000
                                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-04 14:26 +0000
                                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-05 16:17 +1000
                                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-03 15:29 +1000
                                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-03 22:56 +1000
                                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-04 12:35 +1000
                                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@hornet.net.au> - 2017-09-03 20:47 +1000
                                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-03 05:57 -0500
                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ezra <pound@idiot.dog> - 2017-09-02 00:40 -0500
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 13:08 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:27 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:45 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ördög <abaddon@purgatory.org.invalid> - 2017-09-02 04:00 +0000
                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 18:15 +1000
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Ördög <abaddon@purgatory.org.invalid> - 2017-09-02 22:55 +0000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-03 15:41 +1000
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 13:36 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-02 15:29 +1000
                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-02 18:16 +1000
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 07:31 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-03 15:42 +1000
                          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-09-03 15:46 +1000
                            Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-04 12:21 +1000
              Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:40 +1000
                Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 04:30 -0700
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-04 00:51 +1000
                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 03:48 +1000
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-04 11:30 +1000
                        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 05:14 +1000
                  Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 03:46 +1000
                    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 03:24 -0700
                      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 05:16 +1000
      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:52 +1000
    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 10:46 +1000
      Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 11:27 +1000
        Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 11:50 +1000
          Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 17:01 +1000
    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 01:42 +1000
    Re: "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia" noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2017-09-03 19:48 +1000

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#60711 — "Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia"

FromJeßus <j@j.net>
Date2017-09-01 05:38 +0630
Subject"Australia has slower internet speeds than Kenya or Latvia"
Message-ID<gh5hqc95ce4j5864r0bovrmdetcskkrgvr@4ax.com>
The experts agree, Turnbull’s NBN is ‘a national tragedy’

The disastrous rollout of Australia’s NBN is a national tragedy,
according to new research by one of the country’s most respected
engineers.

Professor Rodney Tucker, of Melbourne University, argues that Prime
Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s fateful decision as Communications
Minister to opt for Fibre to the Node (FTTN), has been an extremely
costly disaster.

While the rest of the world is opting for Fibre to the Premises
(FTTP), Australia is embracing an obsolete technology.

Professor Tucker’s paper, The Tragedy of Australia’s National
Broadband Network, just published in the Australian Journal of
Telecommunications and Digital Technology, argues that a worldwide
tipping point has been reached.

Globally, the majority of connections are now through FTTP. Australia
is one of the very few countries using mass deployment of FTTN, with
poor results.

Professor Tucker concludes: “This situation is nothing short of a
national tragedy and a classic example of failed infrastructure policy
that will have long-term ramifications for Australia’s digital
economy.”

The news comes after reports that Australia has slower internet speeds
than Kenya or Latvia – and is continuing to sink dramatically down the
world rankings.

America now has 250 “gigabit” cities using FTTP, proving a boon for
local economies. Australia has none.

Professor Tucker told The New Daily: “The NBN is a great loss of
opportunity. We are becoming a broadband backwater. It will have
profound effects.”

Associate Professor Mark Gregory, of RMIT University in Melbourne, was
equally scathing when he spoke to The New Daily.

“Every Australian expert could see what was happening with
technology,” he said. “The economic case used by the Coalition
government was nonsense from the outset.

“This is the largest single waste of public funds in Australia’s
history. Turnbull must take ownership of this mess. The cost to the
taxpayer is currently at $49.5 billion and there is every indication
the government will have to tip in another $5-10 billion.”

More at:
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/04/10/the-experts-agree-turnbulls-nbn-is-a-national-tragedy/

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#60714

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2017-09-01 09:27 +1000
Message-ID<59a89b71$0$53440$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60711
"Jeßus" <j@j.net> wrote in message 
news:gh5hqc95ce4j5864r0bovrmdetcskkrgvr@4ax.com...
> The experts agree, Turnbull's NBN is 'a national tragedy'
>
> The disastrous rollout of Australia's NBN is a national tragedy,
> according to new research by one of the country's most respected
> engineers.
>
> Professor Rodney Tucker, of Melbourne University, argues that Prime
> Minister Malcolm Turnbull's fateful decision as Communications
> Minister to opt for Fibre to the Node (FTTN), has been an extremely
> costly disaster.
>
> While the rest of the world is opting for Fibre to the Premises
> (FTTP), Australia is embracing an obsolete technology.
>
> Professor Tucker's paper, The Tragedy of Australia's National
> Broadband Network, just published in the Australian Journal of
> Telecommunications and Digital Technology, argues that a worldwide
> tipping point has been reached.
>
> Globally, the majority of connections are now through FTTP. Australia
> is one of the very few countries using mass deployment of FTTN, with
> poor results.
>
> Professor Tucker concludes: "This situation is nothing short of a
> national tragedy and a classic example of failed infrastructure policy
> that will have long-term ramifications for Australia's digital
> economy."
>
> The news comes after reports that Australia has slower internet speeds
> than Kenya or Latvia - and is continuing to sink dramatically down the
> world rankings.
>
> America now has 250 "gigabit" cities using FTTP, proving a boon for
> local economies. Australia has none.
>
> Professor Tucker told The New Daily: "The NBN is a great loss of
> opportunity. We are becoming a broadband backwater. It will have
> profound effects."
>
> Associate Professor Mark Gregory, of RMIT University in Melbourne, was
> equally scathing when he spoke to The New Daily.
>
> "Every Australian expert could see what was happening with
> technology," he said. "The economic case used by the Coalition
> government was nonsense from the outset.
>
> "This is the largest single waste of public funds in Australia's
> history. Turnbull must take ownership of this mess. The cost to the
> taxpayer is currently at $49.5 billion and there is every indication
> the government will have to tip in another $5-10 billion."
>
> More at:
> http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/04/10/the-experts-agree-turnbulls-nbn-is-a-national-tragedy/

I would love to have FTTN we are offered 12/25 wireless. I want 50 NBN says 
it is there the ISPs will not offer it.

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#60715

Fromde chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 09:56 +1000
Message-ID<_66dnRsnSfDfPzXEnZ2dnUU7-UfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#60714
On 1/09/2017 9:27 AM, SG1 wrote:
>
> "Jeßus" <j@j.net> wrote in message
> news:gh5hqc95ce4j5864r0bovrmdetcskkrgvr@4ax.com...
>> The experts agree, Turnbull's NBN is 'a national tragedy'
>>
>> The disastrous rollout of Australia's NBN is a national tragedy,
>> according to new research by one of the country's most respected
>> engineers.
>>
>> Professor Rodney Tucker, of Melbourne University, argues that Prime
>> Minister Malcolm Turnbull's fateful decision as Communications
>> Minister to opt for Fibre to the Node (FTTN), has been an extremely
>> costly disaster.
>>
>> While the rest of the world is opting for Fibre to the Premises
>> (FTTP), Australia is embracing an obsolete technology.
>>
>> Professor Tucker's paper, The Tragedy of Australia's National
>> Broadband Network, just published in the Australian Journal of
>> Telecommunications and Digital Technology, argues that a worldwide
>> tipping point has been reached.
>>
>> Globally, the majority of connections are now through FTTP. Australia
>> is one of the very few countries using mass deployment of FTTN, with
>> poor results.
>>
>> Professor Tucker concludes: "This situation is nothing short of a
>> national tragedy and a classic example of failed infrastructure policy
>> that will have long-term ramifications for Australia's digital
>> economy."
>>
>> The news comes after reports that Australia has slower internet speeds
>> than Kenya or Latvia - and is continuing to sink dramatically down the
>> world rankings.
>>
>> America now has 250 "gigabit" cities using FTTP, proving a boon for
>> local economies. Australia has none.
>>
>> Professor Tucker told The New Daily: "The NBN is a great loss of
>> opportunity. We are becoming a broadband backwater. It will have
>> profound effects."
>>
>> Associate Professor Mark Gregory, of RMIT University in Melbourne, was
>> equally scathing when he spoke to The New Daily.
>>
>> "Every Australian expert could see what was happening with
>> technology," he said. "The economic case used by the Coalition
>> government was nonsense from the outset.
>>
>> "This is the largest single waste of public funds in Australia's
>> history. Turnbull must take ownership of this mess. The cost to the
>> taxpayer is currently at $49.5 billion and there is every indication
>> the government will have to tip in another $5-10 billion."
>>
>> More at:
>> http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/04/10/the-experts-agree-turnbulls-nbn-is-a-national-tragedy/
>>
>
> I would love to have FTTN we are offered 12/25 wireless. I want 50 NBN
> says it is there the ISPs will not offer it.

The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the plans 
available from the providers. The prime time access is so limited that I 
can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 1/2 students at home 
using it.  I know the government will say it is the providers not them 
but that doesn't help me and is indicative of the total fuck-up that this is

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#60717

FromFran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com>
Date2017-09-01 10:49 +1000
Message-ID<ooaai2$puo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60715
On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:

> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the plans 
> available from the providers. The prime time access is so limited that I 
> can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 1/2 students at home 
> using it.  I know the government will say it is the providers not them 
> but that doesn't help me and is indicative of the total fuck-up that 
> this is

Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a fuck 
up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known better 
than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, to it.  It 
was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.

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#60718

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 11:19 +1000
Message-ID<qadhqchbk2rnltrunmdps3tu6ltph1cm88@4ax.com>
In reply to#60717
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 10:49:10 +1000, Fran
<franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote:

>On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>
>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the plans 
>> available from the providers. The prime time access is so limited that I 
>> can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 1/2 students at home 
>> using it.  I know the government will say it is the providers not them 
>> but that doesn't help me and is indicative of the total fuck-up that 
>> this is
>
>Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a fuck 
>up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known better 
>than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, to it.  It 
>was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.

Rudd was completly right
Mr "Broadband" was and is completly wrong
-- 
Petzl
ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" 
*LAST*, Federal State and Council! 
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia. 


For Turnbull, ‘multi-faith’ only means Islam 
https://is.gd/bunwYB 

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#60722

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-08-31 22:15 -0500
Message-ID<slrnoqhk6a.2qe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#60717
The ugly sow, aka the mad cow, posting as "Fran", wrote:
>
> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be
> a fuck up from the first day it was announced. Labor should have
> known better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent
> govts, to it.

He didn't, you moron. He committed to FTTP. It was dear Malcolm
who committed to the fuckup we have.

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#60739

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 01:45 +1000
Message-ID<f0tdl4F7daoU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60722

"Ned Latham" <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote in message 
news:slrnoqhk6a.2qe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz...
> The ugly sow, aka the mad cow, posting as "Fran", wrote:
>>
>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be
>> a fuck up from the first day it was announced. Labor should have
>> known better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent
>> govts, to it.
>
> He didn't, you moron. He committed to FTTP.

Not to every house in the country he never did.
 

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#60740

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-09-01 12:37 -0500
Message-ID<slrnoqj6ne.o9o.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#60739
The Rod Walloper wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The ugly sow, aka the mad cow, posting as "Fran", wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be
> > > a fuck up from the first day it was announced. Labor should have
> > > known better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent
> > > govts, to it.
> >
> > He didn't, you moron. He committed to FTTP.
>
> Not to every house in the country he never did.

Quit ther quibbling, you moron. He committed to FTTP.

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#60741

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 06:10 +1000
Message-ID<f0tt66Fas3iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60740
Some donkey desperately cowering behind
Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> 
wrote just the donkeyshit it always ends up with 
when its got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.  

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#60743

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 09:04 +1000
Message-ID<copjqcplelv3gm6baj0rjh90a20echj4i7@4ax.com>
In reply to#60739
On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 01:45:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Ned Latham" <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote in message 
>news:slrnoqhk6a.2qe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz...
>> The ugly sow, aka the mad cow, posting as "Fran", wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be
>>> a fuck up from the first day it was announced. Labor should have
>>> known better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent
>>> govts, to it.
>>
>> He didn't, you moron. He committed to FTTP.
>
>Not to every house in the country he never did.
> 
That's all I got Sydney Australia.

TGP got Mr "Broadband" scared when they started cherry picking areas
for full NBN.
-- 
Petzl
ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" 
*LAST*, Federal State and Council! 
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia. 


For Turnbull, ‘multi-faith’ only means Islam 
https://is.gd/bunwYB 

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#60737

FromClocky <notgonn@happen.com>
Date2017-09-01 21:40 +0800
Message-ID<59a96343$0$11098$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60717
On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
> 
>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the plans 
>> available from the providers. The prime time access is so limited that 
>> I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 1/2 students at 
>> home using it.  I know the government will say it is the providers not 
>> them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of the total fuck-up 
>> that this is
> 
> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a fuck 
> up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known better 
> than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, to it.  It 
> was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.
> 


The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm 
specifically.

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#60742

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-09-02 08:25 +1000
Message-ID<f0u52eFcjvrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60737
On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>
>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the 
>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so 
>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 
>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is 
>>> the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of 
>>> the total fuck-up that this is
>>
>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a 
>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known 
>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, 
>> to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.
>>
>
>
> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm 
> specifically.
>
>

you got something right for once..

-- 
Islam: the greatest murder machine
in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
https://www.jihadwatch.org

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#60747

FromClocky <notgonn@happen.com>
Date2017-09-02 08:24 +0800
Message-ID<59a9fa20$0$2890$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60742
On 2/09/2017 6:25 AM, felix wrote:
> On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>
>>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the 
>>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so 
>>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 
>>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is 
>>>> the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of 
>>>> the total fuck-up that this is
>>>
>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a 
>>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known 
>>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, 
>>> to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm 
>> specifically.
>>
>>
> 
> you got something right for once..
> 


You mean you're not wrong for once.

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#60799

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-09-03 16:35 +1000
Message-ID<f11m62F64fmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60747
On 2/09/2017 10:24 AM, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/09/2017 6:25 AM, felix wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the 
>>>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so 
>>>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 
>>>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it 
>>>>> is the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is 
>>>>> indicative of the total fuck-up that this is
>>>>
>>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a 
>>>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have 
>>>> known better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent 
>>>> govts, to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the 
>>>> big cities.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm 
>>> specifically.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> you got something right for once..
>>
>
>
> You mean you're not wrong for once.


I'm never wrong :)

-- 
Islam: the greatest murder machine
in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
https://www.jihadwatch.org

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#60808

FromÖrdög <devil@hell.net>
Date2017-09-03 21:46 +0000
Message-ID<akeipf.6j3.19.2@news.alt.net>
In reply to#60799
felix, the ex-pat, live on stage:

> I'm never wrong :)

What an obviously 'alternative facts' statement!

:P

-- 
Ördög
Don't argue with far-right, extremist, terrorist apologist idiots like 
Petz, Felix and Mad Ned Latham.
They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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#60745

FromFran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com>
Date2017-09-02 10:04 +1000
Message-ID<oocsb4$6vk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60737
On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>
>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the plans 
>>> available from the providers. The prime time access is so limited 
>>> that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 1/2 
>>> students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is the 
>>> providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of the 
>>> total fuck-up that this is
>>
>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a 
>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known 
>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, to 
>> it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.
>>
> 
> 
> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm 
> specifically.

Dream on!  It wasn't ever going to work from the very inception as fed 
to the mushrooms out in voter land.

Labor's NBN was never going to work beyond the 'burbs.  Neither were any 
of the subsequent revisions going to work.  It might if more people move 
the the cities to fit the promised land of 98% getting the NBN.

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#60746

Fromde chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 10:15 +1000
Message-ID<s4-dnZ1_DP6tZTTEnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#60745
On 2/09/2017 10:04 AM, Fran wrote:
> On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>
>>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the
>>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so
>>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2
>>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is
>>>> the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of
>>>> the total fuck-up that this is
>>>
>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a
>>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known
>>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts,
>>> to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm
>> specifically.
>
> Dream on!  It wasn't ever going to work from the very inception as fed
> to the mushrooms out in voter land.
>
> Labor's NBN was never going to work beyond the 'burbs.  Neither were any
> of the subsequent revisions going to work.  It might if more people move
> the the cities to fit the promised land of 98% getting the NBN.


Labor was probably happy to hand the mess over to the LNP. It doesn't 
help that the providers are well and truly screwing their subscribers in 
the low competition areas.

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#60748

FromFran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com>
Date2017-09-02 10:24 +1000
Message-ID<ooctes$8ja$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60746
On 2/09/2017 10:15 AM, de chucka wrote:
> On 2/09/2017 10:04 AM, Fran wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the
>>>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so
>>>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2
>>>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is
>>>>> the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of
>>>>> the total fuck-up that this is
>>>>
>>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a
>>>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known
>>>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts,
>>>> to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big 
>>>> cities.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm
>>> specifically.
>>
>> Dream on!  It wasn't ever going to work from the very inception as fed
>> to the mushrooms out in voter land.
>>
>> Labor's NBN was never going to work beyond the 'burbs.  Neither were any
>> of the subsequent revisions going to work.  It might if more people move
>> the the cities to fit the promised land of 98% getting the NBN.
> 
> 
> Labor was probably happy to hand the mess over to the LNP. 

Yep.  Probably having realised they never should have put it forward anyway.

It doesn't
> help that the providers are well and truly screwing their subscribers in 
> the low competition areas.

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#60758

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 13:43 +1000
Message-ID<f0unnuFgaa4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60746

"de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:s4-dnZ1_DP6tZTTEnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 2/09/2017 10:04 AM, Fran wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the
>>>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so
>>>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2
>>>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is
>>>>> the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of
>>>>> the total fuck-up that this is
>>>>
>>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a
>>>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known
>>>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts,
>>>> to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big 
>>>> cities.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm
>>> specifically.
>>
>> Dream on!  It wasn't ever going to work from the very inception as fed
>> to the mushrooms out in voter land.
>>
>> Labor's NBN was never going to work beyond the 'burbs.  Neither were any
>> of the subsequent revisions going to work.  It might if more people move
>> the the cities to fit the promised land of 98% getting the NBN.
>
>
> Labor was probably happy to hand the mess over to the LNP. It doesn't help 
> that the providers are well and truly screwing their subscribers in the 
> low competition areas.

Like hell they are screwing anyone over. MyRepublic was offering 100/40 
unlimited
for just $60 which is in fact a bit cheaper than you could get adsl and line 
rent for.

Amaysim does it for $40 if you don’t need any better speed than adsl could
deliver and that is much cheaper than you could get adsl for, and both are
available australia wide. 

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#60749

FromClocky <notgonn@happen.com>
Date2017-09-02 08:35 +0800
Message-ID<59a9fcc9$0$2835$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60745
On 2/09/2017 8:04 AM, Fran wrote:
> On 1/09/2017 11:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> On 1/09/2017 8:49 AM, Fran wrote:
>>> On 1/09/2017 9:56 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>
>>>> The best I can get is satellite, sounds OK till you look at the 
>>>> plans available from the providers. The prime time access is so 
>>>> limited that I can't run my business let alone a business + plus 2 
>>>> 1/2 students at home using it.  I know the government will say it is 
>>>> the providers not them but that doesn't help me and is indicative of 
>>>> the total fuck-up that this is
>>>
>>> Anyone with half a brain could have predicted it was going to be a 
>>> fuck up from the first day it was announced.  Labor should have known 
>>> better than for that twit Rudd to commit his, and subsequent govts, 
>>> to it.  It was only ever going to be a potential goer in the big cities.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The LNP created this mess. The buck stops with the LNP and Malcolm 
>> specifically.
> 
> Dream on!  It wasn't ever going to work from the very inception as fed 
> to the mushrooms out in voter land.
> 
> Labor's NBN was never going to work beyond the 'burbs. 

Of course it was. It does so in many countries, even third world ones.
The Frankenstein crap we have ended up with thanks to the LNP will end 
up costing a lot more in the long run anyway.

  Neither were any
> of the subsequent revisions going to work.  It might if more people move 
> the the cities to fit the promised land of 98% getting the NBN.

Nope, completely doable and I think it was 93%, not 98%.

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