Re: Tv reception

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.electronics, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Tv reception
Date	2017-02-13 07:22 +1100
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:58a07859$0$34604$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com...
> Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:t6ct9cpp7supofj6ugb227d53odeifsjrn@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:mf5t9c5ve50tt3a2qhq1ruf6jso0da9gv8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:efuu0vF3a44U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:58996add$0$41923$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:5895cdf7$0$4415$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For months I have been having problems with tv reception 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TV not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just found the cause by accident, almost 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbelievable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceiling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply lead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite clamp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the smaller 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sizes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to want are harder to find.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so ferrite 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting next, who knows where next if that does not work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like Bunnings 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kmart
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or Aldi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of 
>>>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>>>> transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12 volt side.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and interference 
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
>>>>>>>>>>> interference
>>>>>>>>>>> for a short time
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture off
>>>>>>>>> lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion very 
>>>>>>>>> conclusive
>>>>>>>>> over many many months even though I only recently discovered 
>>>>>>>>> reason,
>>>>>>>>> since ferrite absolutely no hickups
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>> So your aerial is analogue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this country.
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK Digital Antennas
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial" 
>>>>>> instalation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your previous 
>>>>> one,
>>>>> but there is nothing digital about it, its just as analog as the old 
>>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
>>>> F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
>>>> of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10
>>>>
>>> What are you measuring it with?
>>
>> The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
>> just push "info" on TV remote controler
>
>
> Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

>>> I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
>>> but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
>>> it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
>>> measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
>>> adjust the range with a pot
>

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                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 17:39 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 01:59 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:22 +1100
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