Re: hard drive

From	felix_unger <me@nothere.biz>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: hard drive
Date	2015-10-06 20:30 +1100
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On 06-October-2015 5:50 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 6/10/2015 5:30 PM, felix_unger wrote:
>> On 06-October-2015 5:05 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2015 1:16 PM, Max wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:mutv3a$6v0$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 5/10/2015 9:31 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/10/2015 8:03 AM, felix_unger wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> like everything else all depends on usage. I have drives that 
>>>>>>>> are 10
>>>>>>>> years old still going strong
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True but I'm not talking about drives stuck in a cupboard
>>>>>>> somewhere. My
>>>>>>> drives in computers get used regularly. Backup drives not so much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming to you from an approx. 20yr old 2.1GB HDD (really, my
>>>>>> newsreader
>>>>>> needs to save posts to disk before sending). I'd give you an 
>>>>>> accurate
>>>>>> date, but it doesn't do much SMART, so I'd have to take it out to 
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> date/model. It probably did spend a decade or so in storage before
>>>>>> I put
>>>>>> it in, but the other ~1.2GB one is the original 1995 era one which
>>>>>> boots
>>>>>> Windows 98. Though I have it on a switch which I leave off when
>>>>>> booting
>>>>>> to Linux, which is most of the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I can get the model info from the IDE data. Western Digital
>>>>>> Caviar AC - 22100, but Optus seems to have stoped the domain of my
>>>>>> usual HDD dating resource from resolving, so still no date. I'll 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to start using a proxy if this keeps up...
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have such drives in my junk box. Maybe I should say 'had'! Smallest
>>>>> might be 20 or 30 meg, possibly some larger, a mixed bag. Problem I
>>>>> have is that some have an ST506 interface, some SCSI, Some ESDI. Most
>>>>> are full and half height 5.25 drives, doorstops in this day and age..
>>>>> NONE of my current computers have a compatible interface so what use
>>>>> are they? Looking at this discussion, I thought I may as well bin 
>>>>> them
>>>>> since I will never use them again, even had I the means to connect
>>>>> them to something. They are currently in with the garbage and will be
>>>>> gone before the morning light.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even have some low capacity IDE drives - 850 Meg, 1.2 GB and so on.
>>>>> These, I suspect, will be next for the bin.  It would be easier to 
>>>>> use
>>>>> a bootable flash drive as it would be faster, more compact and have
>>>>> more and cheaper storage capacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> There comes a time when one needs to shed the attachment to 
>>>>> 'mementos'
>>>>> of a technical nature. I've cleaned out a lot in the past 2 or 3 
>>>>> years
>>>>> and have decided that if it hasn't been used for 10 years, colour it
>>>>> gone. I had 3 SANs, two have gone, one needs to have some data
>>>>> retrieved and it too will be gone. I think it has a pair of 500GB WD
>>>>> drives in it. They might end up recycled or given away.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would you throw away a 500GB drive.
>>>
>>> I said recycle or give away. I did not say 'throw away'.
>>>
>>>> That is the standard these days.
>>>
>>> My minimum standard now is one or two TB.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> But what he's saying is that 500gb is pretty much the norm these days
>> for "off the shelf" PC's, and it is
>>
>>
> I have never bought off the shelf PCs. I custom build or salvage. 'My' 
> minimum standard is 1 or 2 TB. That is what I said, that is what I meant.
>

I was just commenting on what he said. I agree with him. what *you* may 
or may not do is not relevant to the point.

-- 
rgds,

Pete
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