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| Started by | pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-07 21:50 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-12-31 23:42 +0000 |
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Mint 22 - No Sound pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 21:50 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-07 20:10 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-08 01:58 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 08:52 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:42 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:59 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Jeff Layman <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-08 20:18 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound alan <alan@asandco.co.uk> - 2024-12-09 08:19 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-09 04:39 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 18:11 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-09 13:36 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-09 13:42 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2024-12-09 10:53 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2024-12-08 12:38 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2024-12-08 14:05 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-29 22:28 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-29 20:02 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:36 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 11:46 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-30 22:35 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 04:16 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-31 11:46 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 10:10 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-12 23:11 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-12 23:47 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-12 19:52 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:38 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 02:35 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-01-13 03:52 -0600
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-20 23:02 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:27 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-21 07:58 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-21 08:20 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-21 17:13 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-21 17:16 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-21 18:43 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-21 19:22 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-21 09:31 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:07 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-23 14:14 -0800
Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:43 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:48 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:41 -0800
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-24 02:40 -0500
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-24 08:55 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-24 09:09 -0800
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-24 20:17 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 13:24 -0700
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-24 14:31 -0800
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-24 14:45 -0500
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-26 19:43 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-26 12:14 -0800
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-06 23:31 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-07 16:03 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-07 17:04 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-07 17:39 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-07 17:53 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-07 20:18 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-07 20:03 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-07 22:03 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-07 23:04 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-08 01:16 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 21:49 -0500
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-08 09:26 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-08 15:22 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-08 12:08 -0600
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-07 18:42 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 14:18 -0500
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-07 19:52 +0000
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 16:31 -0500
Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) David <David@example.net> - 2025-02-08 17:47 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:35 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-31 11:34 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 07:56 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:21 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:35 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:38 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2024-12-29 18:04 -0800
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:34 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-08 16:25 -0500
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 21:20 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-29 20:57 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound wicklowham <wicklowham.nospam@rfburns.eu> - 2024-12-31 20:23 +0000
Re: Mint 22 - No Sound David <David@example.net> - 2024-12-31 23:42 +0000
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 22:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvfuvtF421U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43911 |
On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote: > BDB wrote: >> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of >> Windows 10! On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2 >> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 >> 19045.5371 2025-10-14 >> >> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1 >> >> *I still have no sound*. >> >> What would you like me to try now? > > My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's > W11 PE. > > I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At one > time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do would be > to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then we would have > sound via Win implementation. I've gone past that stage! > If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten > how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out > a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers. Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as far as I can recall. I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to consider. (Windows 10 Usenet group added.) -- David
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 22:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvfv97F421U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43912 |
On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote: > On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote: >> BDB wrote: >>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of >>> Windows 10! > > On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2 > >>> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 >>> 19045.5371 2025-10-14 >>> >>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1 >>> >>> *I still have no sound*. >>> >>> What would you like me to try now? >> >> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the >> Hiren's W11 PE. >> >> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At one >> time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do would >> be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then we would >> have sound via Win implementation. > > I've gone past that stage! > >> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten >> how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure >> out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working >> speakers. > > Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as > far as I can recall. > > I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to > consider. > > (Windows 10 Usenet group added.) Reposted
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 16:41 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvg5taF1j39U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43913 |
David wrote: > David wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> BDB wrote: >>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of >>>> Windows 10! >> >> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2 >> >>>> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 >>>> 19045.5371 2025-10-14 >>>> >>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1 >>>> >>>> *I still have no sound*. >>>> >>>> What would you like me to try now? >>> >>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the >>> Hiren's W11 PE. >>> >>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At >>> one time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do >>> would be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then >>> we would have sound via Win implementation. >> >> I've gone past that stage! >> >>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten >>> how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure >>> out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working >>> speakers. >> >> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as >> far as I can recall. >> My recollection and confirmation by this HK message: http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=173767883500 From: David Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: Ping: Paul Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:43:20 +0000 Message-ID: <lu5hv8F3nfcU4@mid.individual.net> You said that while running Hiren's W11 PE that you used its sound test function which says such as Right speaker and Left speaker (as I recall) that you heard sound from both (each individually) speakers: > Thanks. I've done that - I hear a sound from both left and right speakers. I haven't put my fingers on the msg in which you stated that you also had appropriate sound from the W10 install which was done from a MS W10 .iso Not just a click as heard on various linux installs and live boots. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 02:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vmvg5r$24kse$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #43913 |
On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote: > On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote: >> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote: >>> BDB wrote: >>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of Windows 10! >> >> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2 >> >>>> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14 >>>> >>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1 >>>> >>>> *I still have no sound*. >>>> >>>> What would you like me to try now? >>> >>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's W11 PE. >>> >>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At one time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do would be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then we would have sound via Win implementation. >> >> I've gone past that stage! >> >>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers. >> >> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as far as I can recall. >> >> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to consider. >> >> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.) > > Reposted > You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those, so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver in the normal way. Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN_6.0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB) SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D887EA980FBAF22D237D585 On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place. You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file varies) – osirisgothra Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15 In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power saving. These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved successfully. sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0' # headphones sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0 # speakers Equipment ID: Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368 (Speaker Amp Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital) Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001) Paul
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 08:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvh2saF5nvuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43919 |
On 24/01/2025 07:40, Paul wrote: > On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote: >> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote: >>> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote: >>>> BDB wrote: >>>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of Windows 10! >>> >>> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2 >>> >>>>> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14 >>>>> >>>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1 >>>>> >>>>> *I still have no sound*. >>>>> >>>>> What would you like me to try now? >>>> >>>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's W11 PE. >>>> >>>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At one time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do would be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then we would have sound via Win implementation. >>> >>> I've gone past that stage! >>> >>>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers. >>> >>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as far as I can recall. >>> >>> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to consider. >>> >>> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.) >> >> Reposted >> > > You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those, > so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver > in the normal way. > > Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN_6.0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE > Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB) > SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D887EA980FBAF22D237D585 > > On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the > driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place. > > You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" > and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to > remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file varies) – > osirisgothra > Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15 > > In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power saving. > These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved successfully. > > sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0' # headphones > > sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0 # speakers > > Equipment ID: > > Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368 (Speaker Amp Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital) > Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001) All very interesting, Paul, BUT ..... What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device? Thanks. -- David
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 09:09 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvhvqiFae1cU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43920 |
BDB wrote: > What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to > determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device? Will you confirm or deny that both Hiren's W11 PE and the install of the MS W10 .iso were successful in playing sound? That has been my impression since Jan 7. Since then, my next intention was to use the information from the Win device manager to provide information in an Win environment w/ working audio from the case speakers to interpret in the manner I'm accustomed to doing in linux from the chip ID number in the format xxxx:yyyy. I was able to use that type information in the W10 Lenovo laptop I have which has two audio devices, which worked properly in Win, the HDMI one of which did NOT play in linux until I remedied the problem with a boot parameter when booting linux. This story has been very broken by your struggles w/ providing a consistent picture with a consistent setup in a consistent thread in a consistent newsgroup. -- Mike Easter
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 20:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lviar7FbveaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43925 |
On 24/01/2025 17:09, Mike Easter wrote: > BDB wrote: >> What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to >> determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device? > > Will you confirm or deny that both Hiren's W11 PE and the install of the > MS W10 .iso were successful in playing sound? That has been my > impression since Jan 7. At no time have I ever heard music or speech from the laptop speakers. I HAVE heard a 'click' sound - indicating (to me) that each speaker (L & R) can receive a signal. > Since then, my next intention was to use the information from the Win > device manager to provide information in an Win environment w/ working > audio from the case speakers to interpret in the manner I'm accustomed > to doing in linux from the chip ID number in the format xxxx:yyyy. My Device Manager shows 1. Intel(R) Display Audio and 2. Realtek Audio > I was able to use that type information in the W10 Lenovo laptop I have > which has two audio devices, which worked properly in Win, the HDMI one > of which did NOT play in linux until I remedied the problem with a boot > parameter when booting linux. I'm aware that you are a Linux buff. > This story has been very broken by your struggles w/ providing a > consistent picture with a consistent setup in a consistent thread in a > consistent newsgroup. You are correct, as usual.
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 13:24 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <p0idnWdENYaIag76nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #43932 |
David wrote: > On 24/01/2025 17:09, Mike Easter wrote: >> BDB wrote: >>> What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to >>> determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device? >> >> Will you confirm or deny that both Hiren's W11 PE and the install of >> the MS W10 .iso were successful in playing sound? That has been my >> impression since Jan 7. > > At no time have I ever heard music or speech from the laptop speakers. > > I HAVE heard a 'click' sound - indicating (to me) that each speaker (L & > R) can receive a signal. > >> Since then, my next intention was to use the information from the Win >> device manager to provide information in an Win environment w/ working >> audio from the case speakers to interpret in the manner I'm accustomed >> to doing in linux from the chip ID number in the format xxxx:yyyy. > > My Device Manager shows 1. Intel(R) Display Audio and 2. Realtek Audio > >> I was able to use that type information in the W10 Lenovo laptop I >> have which has two audio devices, which worked properly in Win, the >> HDMI one of which did NOT play in linux until I remedied the problem >> with a boot parameter when booting linux. > > I'm aware that you are a Linux buff. > >> This story has been very broken by your struggles w/ providing a >> consistent picture with a consistent setup in a consistent thread in a >> consistent newsgroup. > > You are correct, as usual. > mine plays frank zappa guitar leads when it's not even on
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 14:31 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lviiluFdbq2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43932 |
David wrote: > At no time have I ever heard music or speech from the laptop speakers. On the basis of my experience w/ my Lenovo laptop which also had HDMI case speakers which did not play w/ linux until I boot parameter 'radeon-ized' it, at which time linux did play thru' the case speakers... ... but at /all/ times, both default Win (which played thru' the case) and default linux (which did NOT play thru' the case) but DID play thru' the headset... ... the 'gain' of functional case speakers, in terms of sound quality, wasn't worth the trouble. For a very long time, I did not even /know/ the case speakers didn't work on that device because of how I use it and do NOT normally listen to sound on it. Once I started listening to sound in the process of troubleshooting what worked and what did not work, I discovered that... ... the case speakers aren't *WORTH* listening to. Even the world's cheapest ear phones sound was superior to that of the case speakers. My advice to you regarding this particular device, considering your other device options: - forget about getting the sound to come from those case speakers - if you are going to listen to sound, listen via the headset plug only or not at all -- Mike Easter
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 14:45 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vn0qlb$2cjo8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #43920 |
On Fri, 1/24/2025 3:55 AM, David wrote:
> On 24/01/2025 07:40, Paul wrote:
>> On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote:
>>> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote:
>>>> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of Windows 10!
>>>>
>>>> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2
>>>>
>>>>>> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I still have no sound*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would you like me to try now?
>>>>>
>>>>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's W11 PE.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At one time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do would be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then we would have sound via Win implementation.
>>>>
>>>> I've gone past that stage!
>>>>
>>>>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers.
>>>>
>>>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as far as I can recall.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to consider.
>>>>
>>>> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.)
>>>
>>> Reposted
>>>
>>
>> You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those,
>> so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver
>> in the normal way.
>>
>> Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN_6.0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE
>> Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB)
>> SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D887EA980FBAF22D237D585
>>
>> On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the
>> driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place.
>>
>> You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel"
>> and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to
>> remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file varies) –
>> osirisgothra
>> Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15
>>
>> In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power saving.
>> These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved successfully.
>>
>> sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0' # headphones
>>
>> sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0 # speakers
>>
>> Equipment ID:
>>
>> Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368 (Speaker Amp Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital)
>> Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001)
>
>
>
> All very interesting, Paul, BUT .....
>
> What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to
> determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device?
>
> Thanks.
>
On Windows 10, you can check Device Manager (right-click start, it should be in there).
But that's a bit of a bore.
Look for the speaker icon in the task bar.
Apparently, all outputs can be listed, but only
the devices which are currently hooked up and
ready to use, can be set as "Default Device".
If two devices are both ready (like my HDMI monitor
and my analog speakers), then I have two devices I
can alternate between.
*******
The difference on Linux Mint, is on the video card,
only the output which is running can be used for
an output. In the picture, only one of four video
card outputs is connected at present, so only
one LCD-monitor-related outputs can have sound on it.
On a laptop, when just the (lvds) LCDpanel is being used,
there is no reason for any iGPU entry to be present
in the sound output selection.
The Realtek outputs are all listed, but the speakers
are plugged into LineOut at the moment. While Analog
Devices Soundmax has actual impedance measurement, and
some motherboards have side-contect HDAudio jacks to detect
that a plug is present, some motherboards do not know
that a plug is inserted. The RealTek does not typically
have impedance measurement capability (protected by a patent).
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/dt02vvv6/speaker-selection.gif
Paul
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-26 19:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvnhiaF720jU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43931 |
On 24/01/2025 19:45, Paul wrote: > On Fri, 1/24/2025 3:55 AM, David wrote: >> On 24/01/2025 07:40, Paul wrote: >>> On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote: >>>> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote: >>>>> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote: >>>>>> BDB wrote: >>>>>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of Windows 10! >>>>> >>>>> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2 >>>>> >>>>>>> 22H2 General Availability Channel 2022-10-18 2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *I still have no sound*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What would you like me to try now? >>>>>> >>>>>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's W11 PE. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have. At one time you had a current Ventoy stick. All you would have to do would be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it. Then we would have sound via Win implementation. >>>>> >>>>> I've gone past that stage! >>>>> >>>>>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers. >>>>> >>>>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as far as I can recall. >>>>> >>>>> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to consider. >>>>> >>>>> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.) >>>> >>>> Reposted >>>> >>> >>> You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those, >>> so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver >>> in the normal way. >>> >>> Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN_6.0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE >>> Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB) >>> SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D887EA980FBAF22D237D585 >>> >>> On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the >>> driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place. >>> >>> You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" >>> and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to >>> remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file varies) – >>> osirisgothra >>> Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15 >>> >>> In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power saving. >>> These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved successfully. >>> >>> sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0' # headphones >>> >>> sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0 # speakers >>> >>> Equipment ID: >>> >>> Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368 (Speaker Amp Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital) >>> Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001) >> >> >> >> All very interesting, Paul, BUT ..... >> >> What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to >> determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device? >> >> Thanks. >> > > On Windows 10, you can check Device Manager (right-click start, it should be in there). > But that's a bit of a bore. > > Look for the speaker icon in the task bar. > > Apparently, all outputs can be listed, but only > the devices which are currently hooked up and > ready to use, can be set as "Default Device". > > If two devices are both ready (like my HDMI monitor > and my analog speakers), then I have two devices I > can alternate between. > > ******* > > The difference on Linux Mint, is on the video card, > only the output which is running can be used for > an output. In the picture, only one of four video > card outputs is connected at present, so only > one LCD-monitor-related outputs can have sound on it. > > On a laptop, when just the (lvds) LCDpanel is being used, > there is no reason for any iGPU entry to be present > in the sound output selection. > > The Realtek outputs are all listed, but the speakers > are plugged into LineOut at the moment. While Analog > Devices Soundmax has actual impedance measurement, and > some motherboards have side-contect HDAudio jacks to detect > that a plug is present, some motherboards do not know > that a plug is inserted. The RealTek does not typically > have impedance measurement capability (protected by a patent). > > [Picture] > > https://i.postimg.cc/dt02vvv6/speaker-selection.gif > > Paul Hi Paul I followed the guidance from "David" on Microsoft Answers and made a new bootable flash drive then once again installed Windows 10 on my old Dell laptop. Sadly, still no sound! On the Dell website, though, this time, I was able to carry out a hardware scan. Here's a screenshot of the failures indicated:- https://i.ibb.co/XjYDWtv/IMG-3158.jpg Any comment beyond time to recycle it?!! -- David
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-26 12:14 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <lvnjd9F7f4qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43953 |
David wrote: > On the Dell website, though, this time, I was able to carry out a > hardware scan. Here's a screenshot of the failures indicated:- > https://i.ibb.co/XjYDWtv/IMG-3158.jpg > > Any comment beyond time to recycle it?!! The screenshot doesn't like the PCI bus situation. In my world, if something is working, it is working, aside from the possibility of something NOT working or not working right, whether or not it is practical to 'fix'. To me, except for the case speaker sound, the laptop is working. To me, personally, I would rather be running a linux on it than W10; or perhaps I would rather be running a dual boot W10 and a modern/current linux whose end of update life isn't near. I would keep the W10 install, add a linux distro of your choice install as an alternate boot trying not to mess up your W10 install again. Personally, I don't need the sound except occasionally; on the occasion which I needed sound, I would use the headset plug for Win or linux. This is cross-posted excessively. Just because some topic of your interest may deserve posting in some choice of groups doesn't mean that it should be posted to all of the groups that it possibly pertains. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-06 23:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vo3gp1$360g3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #43913 |
On 2025-01-23 22:48, David wrote:
>
> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote:
>>
>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as
>> far as I can recall.
I haven't been following this thread at all, and not all of it seems to
be available anyway, so it's possible that someone else might have
suggested this already, but Dells sometimes have function <Fn> key
combinations that control the sound. On this one in front of me, a
Precision M6300, they're as follows ...
<Fn+End> Mute/Unmute sound
<Fn+PageUp> Increase Volume
<Fn+PageDown> Decrease Volume
... while other Dells here have other such <Fn> key combinations marked
but none appear to be for sound. If you haven't already done so,
examine the keyboard for any <Fn> markings that look relevant, usually
they're loud-speaker-like markings in a non-white colour such as orange
or blue.
Also, it may be worth trying to find a manual for it to see if there are
any 'magic' key combinations documented for it.
Also, if you plug some headphones or an amplifier into the headphone
socket, do get sound then? If so, most probably someone has previously
dismantled the PC to fix something or other, and forgotten to reconnect
the internal speakers when re-assembling it.
--
Fake news kills!
I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 16:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <m0mp7aF9pkuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #44032 |
On 06/02/2025 23:31, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-01-23 22:48, David wrote: >> >> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote: >>> >>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound >>> as far as I can recall. > > I haven't been following this thread at all, and not all of it seems to > be available anyway, so it's possible that someone else might have > suggested this already, but Dells sometimes have function <Fn> key > combinations that control the sound. On this one in front of me, a > Precision M6300, they're as follows ... > <Fn+End> Mute/Unmute sound > <Fn+PageUp> Increase Volume > <Fn+PageDown> Decrease Volume > ... while other Dells here have other such <Fn> key combinations marked > but none appear to be for sound. If you haven't already done so, > examine the keyboard for any <Fn> markings that look relevant, usually > they're loud-speaker-like markings in a non-white colour such as orange > or blue. > > Also, it may be worth trying to find a manual for it to see if there are > any 'magic' key combinations documented for it. > > Also, if you plug some headphones or an amplifier into the headphone > socket, do get sound then? If so, most probably someone has previously > dismantled the PC to fix something or other, and forgotten to reconnect > the internal speakers when re-assembling it. Hello Charles 🙂 How kind of you to step in to try to help. *Thank you*! You may like to review the situation from beginning to end, here:- https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-can-i-regain-sound-from-the-speakers-on-my/6a7dfbdf-98e7-4be7-b9e0-ca878c633132?page=1 Should you have time on your hands nowadays, do come to MY Usenet group and raise the posting standard somewhat! (alt.computer.workshop) -- Warm regards, David
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 17:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vo5ef8$3j97o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #44033 |
On 2025-02-07 16:03, David wrote: > On 06/02/2025 23:31, Java Jive wrote: >> On 2025-01-23 22:48, David wrote: >>> >>> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote: >>>> >>>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound >>>> as far as I can recall. >> >> I haven't been following this thread at all, and not all of it seems >> to be available anyway, so it's possible that someone else might have >> suggested this already, but Dells sometimes have function <Fn> key >> combinations that control the sound. On this one in front of me, a >> Precision M6300, they're as follows ... >> <Fn+End> Mute/Unmute sound >> <Fn+PageUp> Increase Volume >> <Fn+PageDown> Decrease Volume >> ... while other Dells here have other such <Fn> key combinations >> marked but none appear to be for sound. If you haven't already done >> so, examine the keyboard for any <Fn> markings that look relevant, >> usually they're loud-speaker-like markings in a non-white colour such >> as orange or blue. >> >> Also, it may be worth trying to find a manual for it to see if there >> are any 'magic' key combinations documented for it. >> >> Also, if you plug some headphones or an amplifier into the headphone >> socket, do get sound then? If so, most probably someone has >> previously dismantled the PC to fix something or other, and forgotten >> to reconnect the internal speakers when re-assembling it. > > Hello Charles 🙂 > > How kind of you to step in to try to help. *Thank you*! > > You may like to review the situation from beginning to end, here:- > > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-can-i-regain-sound-from-the-speakers-on-my/6a7dfbdf-98e7-4be7-b9e0-ca878c633132?page=1 If absolutely no OS, Windows or Linux, can get any sound at all, that seems like a hardware problem. -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 17:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vo5ggq$3jl96$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #44034 |
On 2025-02-07 17:04, Java Jive wrote: > > If absolutely no OS, Windows or Linux, can get any sound at all, that > seems like a hardware problem. One last chance, what happens when you run the Dell Diagnostics? Formerly these were runnable from a CD, whence you could copy them to a bootable USB, nowadays usually available via a boot option similar to <F2> taking you into the BIOS - I'm not sure what actual key it would be, but you should be able to find out from the Dell site, especially as you have the laptop's service tag. If you get no sound via the Diagnostics, then the sound is dead. I have an Inspiron model here, but it's a different model and Dells are horribly confusing in that radically different hardware can share the same model line name, so it wouldn't really be worth my while suggesting anything based on this one, and I'm not familiar with yours at all. What I'm getting around to suggesting is that you obtain a service manual for the laptop and try to find out where the audio hardware is located. If it's on the mainboard then you'd have to swap the mainboard to fix it, probably not worth while, but if it's on a daughterboard, then that may be worth the effort. A lot will also depend on how easy it is to dismantle the laptop to repair, because the same brand names can vary a lot. Of the ones I have here, the Inspiron is the worst of all, but I mainly have Precisions, and, of those, the M6300s are nearly but not quite as bad as the Inspiron, whereas with the M6700s and M6800s you just remove the bottom plage, two screws, and maybe the keyboard, a few more, and almost everything is accessible, a huge improvement on previous models. So, if you're minded to investigate further, try the Dell Diagnostics first, and if you can't hear any sound there, try to obtain a service manual to get a sense of how difficult or easy (chance would be a fine thing) it might be to repair with a used part from eBay. NB: With Dells, the 'service' manuals are often called something that sounds more like a manual instructing use rather than dismantling or repair, for example, my Inspiron's Service Manual is simply called the "Owner's Manual". You'll have to download everything you can and open each up to find which one is what you want. -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 17:53 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vo5hal$3jpi2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #44035 |
On 2025-02-07 17:39, Java Jive wrote: > > remove the bottom plage ... or even 'plate' ... -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 20:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <m0n85cFbrsiU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #44036 |
On 07/02/2025 17:53, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-02-07 17:39, Java Jive wrote: >> >> remove the bottom plage > > ... or even 'plate' ... 👍
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| From | David <David@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 20:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <m0n795FbrsiU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #44035 |
On 07/02/2025 17:39, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-02-07 17:04, Java Jive wrote: >> >> If absolutely no OS, Windows or Linux, can get any sound at all, that >> seems like a hardware problem. > > One last chance, what happens when you run the Dell Diagnostics? > Formerly these were runnable from a CD, whence you could copy them to a > bootable USB, nowadays usually available via a boot option similar to > <F2> taking you into the BIOS - I'm not sure what actual key it would > be, but you should be able to find out from the Dell site, especially as > you have the laptop's service tag. > > If you get no sound via the Diagnostics, then the sound is dead. I have > an Inspiron model here, but it's a different model and Dells are > horribly confusing in that radically different hardware can share the > same model line name, so it wouldn't really be worth my while suggesting > anything based on this one, and I'm not familiar with yours at all. > > What I'm getting around to suggesting is that you obtain a service > manual for the laptop and try to find out where the audio hardware is > located. If it's on the mainboard then you'd have to swap the mainboard > to fix it, probably not worth while, but if it's on a daughterboard, > then that may be worth the effort. > > A lot will also depend on how easy it is to dismantle the laptop to > repair, because the same brand names can vary a lot. Of the ones I have > here, the Inspiron is the worst of all, but I mainly have Precisions, > and, of those, the M6300s are nearly but not quite as bad as the > Inspiron, whereas with the M6700s and M6800s you just remove the bottom > plage, two screws, and maybe the keyboard, a few more, and almost > everything is accessible, a huge improvement on previous models. > > So, if you're minded to investigate further, try the Dell Diagnostics > first, and if you can't hear any sound there, try to obtain a service > manual to get a sense of how difficult or easy (chance would be a fine > thing) it might be to repair with a used part from eBay. > > NB: With Dells, the 'service' manuals are often called something that > sounds more like a manual instructing use rather than dismantling or > repair, for example, my Inspiron's Service Manual is simply called the > "Owner's Manual". You'll have to download everything you can and open > each up to find which one is what you want. "In the old days" I surely would have tried, but it isn't worth the effort when my grandson has already replaced it with an Apple MacBook Air and I've got more computers than I can shake a stick at! It's been nice to meet you, Charles! Come to ACW! -- David
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-07 22:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound) |
| Message-ID | <vo5vvh$3m8vm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #44040 |
On 2025-02-07 20:03, David wrote: > On 07/02/2025 17:39, Java Jive wrote: >> On 2025-02-07 17:04, Java Jive wrote: >>> >>> If absolutely no OS, Windows or Linux, can get any sound at all, that >>> seems like a hardware problem. >> >> One last chance, what happens when you run the Dell Diagnostics? >> Formerly these were runnable from a CD, whence you could copy them to >> a bootable USB, nowadays usually available via a boot option similar >> to <F2> taking you into the BIOS - I'm not sure what actual key it >> would be, but you should be able to find out from the Dell site, >> especially as you have the laptop's service tag. > > "In the old days" I surely would have tried, but it isn't worth the > effort when my grandson has already replaced it with an Apple MacBook > Air and I've got more computers than I can shake a stick at! I can understand readily enough that you may not be bothered enough to dismantle an old laptop to repair it, especially if it turns out to be one of the ones that's a PITA to dismantle and reassemble, but there's no reason not to run the Dell Diagnostics. That should be pretty easy to do. -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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