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Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound)

From David <David@example.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.mint, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop
Subject Re: Window 10 - No Sound (was - Mint 22 - No Sound)
Date 2025-01-26 19:43 +0000
Message-ID <lvnhiaF720jU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 24/01/2025 19:45, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 1/24/2025 3:55 AM, David wrote:
>> On 24/01/2025 07:40, Paul wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote:
>>>> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote:
>>>>> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>> BDB wrote:
>>>>>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of Windows 10!
>>>>>
>>>>> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 22H2     General Availability Channel     2022-10-18     2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I still have no sound*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What would you like me to try now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's W11 PE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have.  At one time you had a current Ventoy stick.  All you would have to do would be to copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it.  Then we would have sound via Win implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've gone past that stage!
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as far as I can recall.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to consider.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.)
>>>>
>>>> Reposted
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those,
>>> so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver
>>> in the normal way.
>>>
>>>      Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN_6.0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE
>>>      Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB)
>>>      SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D887EA980FBAF22D237D585
>>>
>>> On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the
>>> driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place.
>>>
>>>      You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel"
>>>      and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to
>>>      remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file varies) –
>>>      osirisgothra
>>>      Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15
>>>
>>> In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power saving.
>>> These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved successfully.
>>>
>>>      sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0'     # headphones
>>>
>>>      sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0                                        # speakers
>>>
>>> Equipment ID:
>>>
>>>      Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368        (Speaker Amp Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital)
>>>      Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001)
>>
>>
>>
>> All very interesting, Paul, BUT .....
>>
>> What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to
>> determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> 
> On Windows 10, you can check Device Manager (right-click start, it should be in there).
> But that's a bit of a bore.
> 
> Look for the speaker icon in the task bar.
> 
> Apparently, all outputs can be listed, but only
> the devices which are currently hooked up and
> ready to use, can be set as "Default Device".
> 
> If two devices are both ready (like my HDMI monitor
> and my analog speakers), then I have two devices I
> can alternate between.
> 
> *******
> 
> The difference on Linux Mint, is on the video card,
> only the output which is running can be used for
> an output. In the picture, only one of four video
> card outputs is connected at present, so only
> one LCD-monitor-related outputs can have sound on it.
> 
> On a laptop, when just the  (lvds) LCDpanel is being used,
> there is no reason for any iGPU entry to be present
> in the sound output selection.
> 
> The Realtek outputs are all listed, but the speakers
> are plugged into LineOut at the moment. While Analog
> Devices Soundmax has actual impedance measurement, and
> some motherboards have side-contect HDAudio jacks to detect
> that a plug is present, some motherboards do not know
> that a plug is inserted. The RealTek does not typically
> have impedance measurement capability (protected by a patent).
> 
>     [Picture]
> 
>      https://i.postimg.cc/dt02vvv6/speaker-selection.gif
> 
>    Paul


Hi Paul

I followed the guidance from "David" on Microsoft Answers and made a new 
bootable flash drive then once again installed Windows 10 on my old Dell 
laptop. Sadly, still no sound!

On the Dell website, though, this time, I was able to carry out a 
hardware scan. Here's a screenshot of the failures indicated:-
https://i.ibb.co/XjYDWtv/IMG-3158.jpg

Any comment beyond time to recycle it?!!

-- 
David

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