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Re: Mint 22 - No Sound

From	David <David@example.net>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux.mint, alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject	Re: Mint 22 - No Sound
Date	2025-01-12 23:11 +0000
Message-ID	<luj0h2F8tmhU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 01/01/2025 15:10, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 12/31/2024 6:46 AM, David wrote:
>> On 31/12/2024 09:16, Paul wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12/30/2024 5:35 PM, David wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for chatting, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the thread which *I* started on that forum:-
>>>>
>>>> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2567954#p2567954
>>>>
>>>> I fear I need more hand-holding as I get older! <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently wiping the hard drive again on the Dell laptop and will look again tomorrow.
>>>
>>> I tried a test of LM22 on the old E8400 CPU with HD6450 video card and 16GB RAM,
>>> and this is what you see when testing the analog sound. I was using
>>> simplescreenrecorder to record the screen, which is why the CPU usage
>>> is so high. The sound is Intel HDAudio and some small CODEC for the analog.
>>>
>>>      [Picture]
>>>
>>>       https://i.postimg.cc/0NnSjVnX/Optiplex-LM22-sound-test.gif
>>>
>>> The sound works and comes out of the speakers.
>>>
>>> I find LM 21.3 is better for old computers,
>>> and LM 22 just isn't quite the same for the job.
>>>
>>> The LM21.3 uses the 5.15 kernel, while LM22 uses 6.x.y kernels.
>>
>> Thanks, Paul.
>>
>> I've got the same grandfather clock ticking sounds using MX Linux as I
>> had with Mint, so the only thing I can think of is that perhaps flashing
>> the BIOS will be necessary to fix the sound failure.
>>
>> I've read about what to do - but not yet tried to do it!
>>
>> https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000123870/how-to-flash-the-bios-on-a-dell-desktop-or-notebook-with-a-usb-thumb-drive
>>
> 
> Googling on the first statement may dig up more articles on repair statements.
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/xzxkef/realtek_alc256_sound_card_issue_fix/
> 
>    "... /etc/modprobe.d mine is called alsa-base.conf
> 
>     options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1
>     options snd-hda-intel model=dell-headset-multi
>     options snd-hda-intel power_save=1
>    "
> 
> *******
> 
> I couldn't find a datasheet for ALC256, but it's possible the part
> description is "2 channel CODEC with equalizer", where the equalizer
> is the driver code, rather than inside the chip itself. To put a
> processor inside the ALC256, with a small RAM for temporary variables,
> that's just not RealTeks style. Any kind of DSP solution, or even
> a mixed analog/digital chip platform, you could put together
> a multi-band equalizer (or even a basic bass/treble control).
> 
> The problem could be with a "null" driver that removes the DSP
> and copies the voice samples from one place to another (with the
> wrong sample rate used). Or, it could be the DSP part was
> surgically removed properly, but it is an actual
> old-fashioned 44100 Hz versus 48000 Hz issue. We used
> to have ticking in the past, cause by improper sampling
> rate handling.


Hello again, Paul - UPDATE!

All good exercise to keep the grey matter ticking over! I'm just 
completing the *full installation* of Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 on my 
old Dell laptop. I awarded it 100GB of space on the disk.

It's taking longer than I expected. I'll report back later.

-- 
David

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