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Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal)

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal)
Date 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
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On 13 Jan 2026 14:21:45 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote:

> On 2026-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On 13 Jan 2026 06:31:43 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>
>>>> How many other FOSS projects use the MIT, Apache, Zero Clause BSD, or
>>>> other permissive licenses?
>>> 
>>> I don't know offhand, but I've always been under the impression the
>>> licenses you mentioned are all relatively widespread.
>>
>> Precisely. Raymond's argument was restrictive licenses would deter FOSS
>> development.
> 
> Fair enough, but to go back to where this subthread came from, does that
> make him a marketroid? Or just an advocate, maybe agitator if you're
> feeling dramatic?
> 
> "Marketroid" makes me think of something rather more pernicious than
> just copyleft vs. copycenter (to reference the Jargon File, speaking of
> ESR).
> 
> Niklas

I see no reason to call him a 'marketroid', whatever that might be.

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