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Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally

From "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
Date 2015-07-01 05:02 +1000
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"greymausg" <maus@mail.com> wrote in message 
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> On 2015-06-30, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:22:49 -0500, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>Someone told me some years ago that they were going to use biometrics
>>>for security, to make sure only certain people got into some areas. I
>>>then asked them, 'what if they have retina surgery ? I have, and one
>>>of my retinas changes shape almost daily'. They had no answer and sort
>>>of wandered away mumbling to themselves.
>>
>>      Details, please, about your retina that changes shape so often.
>> What is the name of the condition?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Gene Wirchenko
>
>
> There are several problems with biometrics, for instance,
> drug use, illness.

But its perfectly possible for the biometric scanner to
be immune from those effects.

> Glaucoma can affect the shape of the eyeball.

But does not see the retina change shape almost daily.
Sudden change due to surgery fails safe and it is completely
trivial to do another scan after that just like was done with
the original scan when that individual was added to the
system. And if the retina does change at a high rate, that
fails safe and you can just fall back to something else like
a PIN but only for that individual and have the much more
secure verification of the individual for everyone else. 

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  Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 08:08 +1000
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-28 15:38 -0500
      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 07:01 +1000
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-07-01 20:45 +0000
      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 08:08 +1000
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-07-02 00:01 +0000
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      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-07-01 16:41 -0700
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 10:42 +1000
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-07-03 12:55 -0700
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-07-04 08:48 -0700
  Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-28 15:46 +0000
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-28 16:04 +0000
      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-06-29 08:22 +0200
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 06:56 +1000
      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-29 12:15 +0000
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-06-29 16:17 +0200
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 10:22 -0500
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-06-29 10:30 -0500
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 18:42 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 10:13 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:56 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:12 +1000
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-29 19:40 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 20:48 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-30 20:50 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-06-30 14:09 -0700
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 17:06 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-01 09:00 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-02 17:35 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-02 20:40 -0700
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-03 09:28 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 06:36 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-03 15:27 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-07-03 14:41 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-03 20:53 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-06-30 17:51 -0600
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 04:33 +1000
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-06-29 20:04 -0700
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-06-30 10:27 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:02 +1000
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 08:38 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:16 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-06-30 12:17 -0700
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-06-29 09:50 -0700
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-29 12:32 -0500
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 04:40 +1000
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 04:23 +1000
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:56 +0000
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-30 09:25 -0500
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 17:23 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-30 12:39 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-07-01 10:10 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 12:06 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 05:29 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-02 11:44 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-02 16:04 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-02 11:32 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-02 20:41 -0700
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 05:55 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-02 17:35 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 19:05 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Morten Reistad <first@last.navn> - 2015-07-02 21:58 +0200
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-03 12:31 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 04:59 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-01 09:18 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-01 11:34 -0700
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-01 09:15 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-06-30 19:36 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-07-01 10:29 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 12:06 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 05:36 +1000
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 12:06 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 05:28 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-01 17:29 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-02 11:44 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 06:56 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-02 09:03 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-07-02 10:01 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-02 16:36 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-02 10:56 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-02 10:55 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-07-02 16:10 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-02 13:27 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 05:48 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-02 21:51 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-07-04 06:39 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 05:47 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-07-02 11:59 -0700
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-07-02 11:50 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-02 13:42 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-07-03 10:03 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 05:21 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-02 20:45 -0700
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-02 17:07 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-02 18:04 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 15:02 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-02 21:54 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-03 12:31 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-03 08:15 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 05:53 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-03 12:24 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-03 14:12 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-04 11:41 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-04 14:17 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-04 11:59 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-06 10:56 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-07-07 16:18 +0200
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-04 13:55 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 05:40 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-04 20:05 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-05 13:49 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-05 09:05 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-05 17:49 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-06 11:36 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:45 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 06:03 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-07-05 23:23 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 15:43 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-06 11:36 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-06 16:02 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-07 12:37 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:43 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-05 16:37 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-06 13:52 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-07 05:42 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-07 12:37 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 05:20 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-07 12:37 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-07 17:25 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-07 15:40 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-08 06:46 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-07 18:07 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-08 08:33 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "EspenFucker" <EF4312@nospam.com> - 2015-07-08 14:47 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:08 -0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-08 16:52 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-08 13:26 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-08 17:41 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-09 05:00 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 00:29 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "EspenFucker" <EF4312@nospam.com> - 2015-07-09 04:45 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-08 14:35 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:15 -0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-08 10:09 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-08 16:25 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Hop David <hopd@nospam.cunews.info> - 2015-07-09 15:36 -0400
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-09 04:44 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-08 16:52 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-08 18:08 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-09 09:18 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Morten Reistad <first@last.navn> - 2015-07-08 07:23 +0200
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-09 12:15 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-09 16:04 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-07-09 11:49 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-09 12:27 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-09 19:02 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-07-09 14:05 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-09 12:12 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-10 05:39 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 00:45 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-09 23:21 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-10 15:29 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:30 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-10 10:22 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-10 10:26 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-10 16:36 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-10 13:06 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-10 10:27 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-11 04:46 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 05:22 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-07-10 05:25 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-08 14:20 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-08 16:52 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-09 12:15 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 05:23 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 04:47 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 05:23 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-07 22:02 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-07 13:49 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 05:28 +1000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-08 14:20 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-08 11:32 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-09 12:15 +0000
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 04:51 +1000
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:10 +1000
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 04:53 +1000
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally lynn@garlic.com - 2015-06-29 17:36 -0700
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 11:23 +0100
            Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:07 -0500
              Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-07-01 10:14 +0100
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-01 17:34 -0500
                Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-07-03 09:42 +0100
      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-07-01 20:47 +0000
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 08:12 +1000
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-29 07:05 +0000
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 10:41 +0100
      Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-06-30 09:22 -0700
        Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-06-30 09:59 -0700
          Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-07-07 10:14 -0700
  Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-28 12:03 -0400
    Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 06:54 +1000
  Re: Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-06-28 18:39 -0700

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