Re: The joy of Patents

From	Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The joy of Patents
Date	2024-10-25 07:46 -1000
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Capitalism and social democracy ... have pros & cons and can be used for
checks & balances ... example, On War
https://www.amazon.com/War-beautifully-reproduced-illustrated-introduction-ebook/dp/B00G3DFLY8/
loc394-95: As long as the Socialists only threatened capital they were
not seriously interfered with, for the Government knew quite well that
the undisputed sway of the employer was not for the ultimate good of the
State.
i.e. the government needed general population standard of living
sufficient that soldiers were willing to fight to preserve their way of
life. Capitalists tendency was to reduce worker standard of living to
the lowest possible ... below what the government needed for soldier
motivation ... and therefor needed socialists as counterbalance to the
capitalists in raising the general population standard of living. Saw
this fight out in the 30s, American Fascists opposing all of FDR's "new
deals" The Coming of American Fascism, 1920-1940
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/172004 The truth, then, is that
Long and Coughlin, together with the influential Communist Party and
other leftist organizations, helped save the New Deal from becoming
genuinely fascist, from devolving into the dictatorial rule of big
business. The pressures towards fascism remained, as reactionary sectors
of business began to have significant victories against the Second New
Deal starting in the late 1930s. But the genuine power that organized
labor had achieved by then kept the U.S. from sliding into all-out
fascism (in the Marxist sense) in the following decades.
aka "Coming of America Fascism" shows socialists countered the "New
Deal" becoming fascist ... which had been the objective of the
capitalists ... and possibly contributed to forcing them further into
the Nazi/fascist camp. When The Bankers Plotted To Overthrow FDR
https://www.npr.org/2012/02/12/145472726/when-the-bankers-plotted-to-overthrow-fdr
The Plots Against the President: FDR, A Nation in Crisis, and the Rise
of the American Right
https://www.amazon.com/Plots-Against-President-Nation-American-ebook/dp/B07N4BLR77/
"Why Nations Fail"
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Nations-Fail-Origins-Prosperity-ebook/dp/B0058Z4NR8/
original settlement, Jamestown ... English planning on emulating the
Spanish model, enslave the local natives to support the
settlement. Unfortunately the North American natives weren't as
cooperative and the settlement nearly starved. Then started out
switching to sending over some of the other populations from the British
Isles essentially as slaves ... the English Crown charters had them as
"leet-man" ... pg27: The clauses of the Fundamental Constitutions laid
out a rigid social structure. At the bottom were the "leet-men," with
clause 23 noting, "All the children of leet-men shall be leet-men, and
so to all generations."
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                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:41 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-05 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of Economics Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 06:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 11:02 +0100
                Re: The joy of Economics The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 18:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-29 20:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-29 21:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 00:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 10:59 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 11:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 18:33 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 18:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 21:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 16:24 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 01:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 02:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of Civilization Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 20:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 10:20 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 20:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-31 00:25 -0400
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 10:25 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-31 18:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 18:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 21:21 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 00:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 10:40 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-01 10:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 22:29 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-01 16:14 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 05:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of Warfare Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 06:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of Warfare rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 08:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Warfare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:07 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-03 19:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-04 06:57 -0500
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-01 07:04 +1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-31 21:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-01 09:00 +1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-31 22:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 02:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 04:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Aotearoa Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 04:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of Aotearoa rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-11-01 17:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-01 19:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 01:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:07 +0100
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 22:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 00:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 18:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-03 11:25 -1000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:12 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-11-04 01:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 04:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of Insurance Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 05:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-11-02 03:24 -0300
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-11-02 10:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-11-03 01:21 -0300
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 04:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-11-03 06:01 -0500
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-03 10:42 -1000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-04 03:21 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-11-03 05:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 23:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 00:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 01:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 01:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 03:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-01 13:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-01 16:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-02 07:54 -0400
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-02 17:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 10:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 20:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 22:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 01:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:40 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 18:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 23:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-03 10:55 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-04 06:55 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 23:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 01:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 19:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-05 20:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 02:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:01 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:24 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:44 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 18:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:05 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:47 +0100
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 00:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 00:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-03 19:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 01:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 02:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 06:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 02:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:58 +0100
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 19:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-01 10:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 22:30 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:44 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:03 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 00:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-03 19:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-04 06:54 -0500
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:16 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:18 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:45 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-03 20:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:21 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2024-11-04 14:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 18:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:16 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:08 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 00:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:13 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 20:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:38 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 06:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 00:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 01:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 08:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 12:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 10:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-31 12:42 -1000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 00:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 01:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-11-01 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 20:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 22:01 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:54 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-29 19:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:51 +0100
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