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MS Mouse Replacement

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  MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-09 11:57 -0500
    Re: MS Mouse Replacement Bill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> - 2017-02-09 12:18 -0500
      Re: MS Mouse Replacement John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere> - 2017-02-09 14:18 -0500
        Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-09 14:44 -0500
          Re: MS Mouse Replacement GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> - 2017-02-09 18:23 -0600
            Re: MS Mouse Replacement Bill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> - 2017-02-09 20:41 -0500
              Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-10 08:45 -0500
                Re: MS Mouse Replacement Bill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> - 2017-02-10 13:49 -0500
                  Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-12 09:06 -0500
            Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-10 08:36 -0500
    Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-13 07:22 -0500
      Re: MS Mouse Replacement GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> - 2017-02-13 15:07 -0600
    Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-25 07:39 -0500
      Re: MS Mouse Replacement Bill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> - 2017-02-25 22:29 -0500
        Re: MS Mouse Replacement "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2017-02-26 07:28 -0500
          Re: MS Mouse Replacement Bill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> - 2017-02-26 09:21 -0500
            Re: MS Mouse Replacement Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2017-02-26 15:27 -0500
              Re: MS Mouse Replacement "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2017-02-26 16:47 -0500
              Re: MS Mouse Replacement Bill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> - 2017-02-26 22:20 -0500
              Re: MS Mouse Replacement Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-02-26 23:30 -0500
            Re: MS Mouse Replacement Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-02-26 23:28 -0500

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#18002 — MS Mouse Replacement

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-09 11:57 -0500
SubjectMS Mouse Replacement
Message-ID<o7i6un$bb6$1@dont-email.me>
I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I love it- 
the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've tried a 
few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it, but have found 
nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've tried:\

Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit 
working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in 
fixing/replacing it):
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too vertical):
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at least 
large enough for me):
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large 
enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything else 
closer to the MS):
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I wear a 
medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the rest 
feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use before going 
back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This mouse sucks" decision.

If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly 
priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like to hear 
your experiences with one.

TIA!!
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18003

FromBill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net>
Date2017-02-09 12:18 -0500
Message-ID<o7i89a01d4l@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#18002
SC Tom wrote:
> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I 
> love it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. 
> I've tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for 
> it, but have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a 
> few I've tried:\
>
> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit 
> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in 
> fixing/replacing it):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>
>
> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too 
> vertical):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>
>
> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at 
> least large enough for me):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>
>
> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large 
> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything 
> else closer to the MS):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>
>
> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I 
> wear a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that 
> makes the rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month 
> of use before going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute 
> "This mouse sucks" decision.
>
> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly 
> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like 
> to hear your experiences with one.
>
> TIA!!

I wear a large glove and "I feel your pain". The configuration I've been 
using for a few years is to have the mouse on a book (for comfort, I 
also put a washcloth under my wrist) . Having to "reach" for it makes 
the mouse seem a big bigger.  I was willing to pay $100 for the right 
mouse, but didn't find one.  The cost of this solution is *nada*.  Good 
luck!

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#18004

FromJohn McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere>
Date2017-02-09 14:18 -0500
Message-ID<1h3nA.13993$gF7.598@fx16.iad>
In reply to#18003
On 2/9/2017 12:18 PM, Bill wrote:
> SC Tom wrote:
>> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I love
>> it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've
>> tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it, but
>> have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've
>> tried:\
>>
>> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit
>> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in
>> fixing/replacing it):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too vertical):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at
>> least large enough for me):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large
>> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything
>> else closer to the MS):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I wear
>> a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the
>> rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use
>> before going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This mouse
>> sucks" decision.
>>
>> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly
>> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like to
>> hear your experiences with one.
>>
>> TIA!!
>
> I wear a large glove and "I feel your pain". The configuration I've been
> using for a few years is to have the mouse on a book (for comfort, I also
> put a washcloth under my wrist) . Having to "reach" for it makes the mouse
> seem a big bigger.  I was willing to pay $100 for the right mouse, but
> didn't find one.  The cost of this solution is *nada*.  Good luck!
>
All good reasons why I gave up on mice altogether. Now I use nothing but 
Logitech 'thumb' trackballs. Whenever I'm force by circumstances to use a 
mouse (especially on a small work surface) or touch pad I'm reminded 
immediately how clumsy any mouse is as a pointing device. I guess YMMV as 
always but a really good trackball is probably worth a try.

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#18005

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-09 14:44 -0500
Message-ID<o7igmv$ih9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18004

"John McGaw" <Nobody@Nowh.ere> wrote in message 
news:1h3nA.13993$gF7.598@fx16.iad...
> On 2/9/2017 12:18 PM, Bill wrote:
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I love
>>> it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've
>>> tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it, but
>>> have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've
>>> tried:\
>>>
>>> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit
>>> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in
>>> fixing/replacing it):
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too 
>>> vertical):
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>
>>>
>>> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at
>>> least large enough for me):
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large
>>> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything
>>> else closer to the MS):
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>
>>>
>>> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I 
>>> wear
>>> a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the
>>> rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use
>>> before going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This mouse
>>> sucks" decision.
>>>
>>> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly
>>> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like to
>>> hear your experiences with one.
>>>
>>> TIA!!
>>
>> I wear a large glove and "I feel your pain". The configuration I've been
>> using for a few years is to have the mouse on a book (for comfort, I also
>> put a washcloth under my wrist) . Having to "reach" for it makes the 
>> mouse
>> seem a big bigger.  I was willing to pay $100 for the right mouse, but
>> didn't find one.  The cost of this solution is *nada*.  Good luck!
>>
> All good reasons why I gave up on mice altogether. Now I use nothing but 
> Logitech 'thumb' trackballs. Whenever I'm force by circumstances to use a 
> mouse (especially on a small work surface) or touch pad I'm reminded 
> immediately how clumsy any mouse is as a pointing device. I guess YMMV as 
> always but a really good trackball is probably worth a try.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I have used trackballs in the past and really 
didn't like them. At work, I was forced into it on a really old server that 
had the trackball built into the keyboard. Not a very good set-up at all :-(
Years ago, a friend who really loved them gave me his old Logitech(?) when 
he bought a newer one. It had a fairly large ball on it (unlike the keyboard 
one), but I never got comfortable with it. One problem I have now is 
arthritis pretty bad in my thumbs, and I'm kind of afraid a trackball may 
aggravate it.

Thanks again!
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18006

FromGlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io>
Date2017-02-09 18:23 -0600
Message-ID<o7j15c$15tc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#18005
On 2/9/2017 1:44 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "John McGaw" <Nobody@Nowh.ere> wrote in message
> news:1h3nA.13993$gF7.598@fx16.iad...
>> On 2/9/2017 12:18 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>
>>>> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I
>>>> love
>>>> it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've
>>>> tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it,
>>>> but
>>>> have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've
>>>> tried:\
>>>>
>>>> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit
>>>> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in
>>>> fixing/replacing it):
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too
>>>> vertical):
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at
>>>> least large enough for me):
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large
>>>> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything
>>>> else closer to the MS):
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I
>>>> wear
>>>> a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the
>>>> rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use
>>>> before going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This
>>>> mouse
>>>> sucks" decision.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly
>>>> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like to
>>>> hear your experiences with one.
>>>>
>>>> TIA!!
>>>
>>> I wear a large glove and "I feel your pain". The configuration I've been
>>> using for a few years is to have the mouse on a book (for comfort, I
>>> also
>>> put a washcloth under my wrist) . Having to "reach" for it makes the
>>> mouse
>>> seem a big bigger.  I was willing to pay $100 for the right mouse, but
>>> didn't find one.  The cost of this solution is *nada*.  Good luck!
>>>
>> All good reasons why I gave up on mice altogether. Now I use nothing
>> but Logitech 'thumb' trackballs. Whenever I'm force by circumstances
>> to use a mouse (especially on a small work surface) or touch pad I'm
>> reminded immediately how clumsy any mouse is as a pointing device. I
>> guess YMMV as always but a really good trackball is probably worth a try.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but I have used trackballs in the past and
> really didn't like them. At work, I was forced into it on a really old
> server that had the trackball built into the keyboard. Not a very good
> set-up at all :-(
> Years ago, a friend who really loved them gave me his old Logitech(?)
> when he bought a newer one. It had a fairly large ball on it (unlike the
> keyboard one), but I never got comfortable with it. One problem I have
> now is arthritis pretty bad in my thumbs, and I'm kind of afraid a
> trackball may aggravate it.
>
> Thanks again!
Might be a typo but give this link a try.  Claims to have the mouse you 
want for $49.99.  If it is a typo still might be worth a try to see if 
they catch it before shipping it to you.  Might even be worth a couple 
of them to cover the future.  I don't shorten the URL's I get from 
searching, sorry.

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV06X56C2742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Mouse-_-9SIV06X56C2742&gclid=COLf54uehNICFYk2gQodCYMHyw

Good hunting...

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#18007

FromBill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net>
Date2017-02-09 20:41 -0500
Message-ID<o7j5ov01rc3@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#18006
GlowingBlueMist wrote:
> Might be a typo but give this link a try.  Claims to have the mouse 
> you want for $49.99.  If it is a typo still might be worth a try to 
> see if they catch it before shipping it to you.  Might even be worth a 
> couple of them to cover the future.  I don't shorten the URL's I get 
> from searching, sorry.
>
> https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV06X56C2742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Mouse-_-9SIV06X56C2742&gclid=COLf54uehNICFYk2gQodCYMHyw 
>
>
> Good hunting...


It looks so much like my Logitech G5, you'd swear they came out of the 
same factory!

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#18009

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-10 08:45 -0500
Message-ID<o7kg1n$g5n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18007

"Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
news:o7j5ov01rc3@news3.newsguy.com...
> GlowingBlueMist wrote:
>> Might be a typo but give this link a try.  Claims to have the mouse you 
>> want for $49.99.  If it is a typo still might be worth a try to see if 
>> they catch it before shipping it to you.  Might even be worth a couple of 
>> them to cover the future.  I don't shorten the URL's I get from 
>> searching, sorry.
>>
>> https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV06X56C2742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Mouse-_-9SIV06X56C2742&gclid=COLf54uehNICFYk2gQodCYMHyw
>>
>> Good hunting...
>
>
> It looks so much like my Logitech G5, you'd swear they came out of the 
> same factory!

The G5 isn't quite as tall as the 6000, plus it's a wired mouse. My set-up 
is terrible for wired mice (home desk that used to be a writing desk).
But, you are right, they are quite similar.
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18013

FromBill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net>
Date2017-02-10 13:49 -0500
Message-ID<o7l1uv017el@news7.newsguy.com>
In reply to#18009
SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
> news:o7j5ov01rc3@news3.newsguy.com...
>> GlowingBlueMist wrote:
>>> Might be a typo but give this link a try.  Claims to have the mouse 
>>> you want for $49.99.  If it is a typo still might be worth a try to 
>>> see if they catch it before shipping it to you.  Might even be worth 
>>> a couple of them to cover the future.  I don't shorten the URL's I 
>>> get from searching, sorry.
>>>
>>> https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV06X56C2742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Mouse-_-9SIV06X56C2742&gclid=COLf54uehNICFYk2gQodCYMHyw 
>>>
>>>
>>> Good hunting...
>>
>>
>> It looks so much like my Logitech G5, you'd swear they came out of 
>> the same factory!
>
> The G5 isn't quite as tall as the 6000, plus it's a wired mouse. <snip>
> But, you are right, they are quite similar.

It occurred to me that the "book configuration" I described earlier 
probably accommodates the height difference. Easily-adjustable too. 
Hopefully, we will have more mouse choices someday.

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#18019

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-12 09:06 -0500
Message-ID<o7pq11$ki2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18013

"Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
news:o7l1uv017el@news7.newsguy.com...
> SC Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
>> news:o7j5ov01rc3@news3.newsguy.com...
>>> GlowingBlueMist wrote:
>>>> Might be a typo but give this link a try.  Claims to have the mouse you 
>>>> want for $49.99.  If it is a typo still might be worth a try to see if 
>>>> they catch it before shipping it to you.  Might even be worth a couple 
>>>> of them to cover the future.  I don't shorten the URL's I get from 
>>>> searching, sorry.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV06X56C2742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Mouse-_-9SIV06X56C2742&gclid=COLf54uehNICFYk2gQodCYMHyw
>>>>
>>>> Good hunting...
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks so much like my Logitech G5, you'd swear they came out of the 
>>> same factory!
>>
>> The G5 isn't quite as tall as the 6000, plus it's a wired mouse. <snip>
>> But, you are right, they are quite similar.
>
> It occurred to me that the "book configuration" I described earlier 
> probably accommodates the height difference. Easily-adjustable too. 
> Hopefully, we will have more mouse choices someday.
>

I have a book that when I put a smaller mouse on it, it's about the same 
height as the 6000. That works pretty well, if I adjust the cursor speed to 
where my mouse doesn't move to far to get good cursor range. I don't know if 
I could stay with that setup, though.

I went ahead and ordered a new one from Newegg Business. Thought I'd better 
grab it before the price went up another $10 :-)
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18008

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-10 08:36 -0500
Message-ID<o7kfh1$ec9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18006

"GlowingBlueMist" <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> wrote in message 
news:o7j15c$15tc$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 2/9/2017 1:44 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>> "John McGaw" <Nobody@Nowh.ere> wrote in message
>> news:1h3nA.13993$gF7.598@fx16.iad...
>>> On 2/9/2017 12:18 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>>
>>>>> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I
>>>>> love
>>>>> it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've
>>>>> tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it,
>>>>> but
>>>>> have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've
>>>>> tried:\
>>>>>
>>>>> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit
>>>>> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in
>>>>> fixing/replacing it):
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too
>>>>> vertical):
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at
>>>>> least large enough for me):
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large
>>>>> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything
>>>>> else closer to the MS):
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I
>>>>> wear
>>>>> a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the
>>>>> rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use
>>>>> before going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This
>>>>> mouse
>>>>> sucks" decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly
>>>>> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like 
>>>>> to
>>>>> hear your experiences with one.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA!!
>>>>
>>>> I wear a large glove and "I feel your pain". The configuration I've 
>>>> been
>>>> using for a few years is to have the mouse on a book (for comfort, I
>>>> also
>>>> put a washcloth under my wrist) . Having to "reach" for it makes the
>>>> mouse
>>>> seem a big bigger.  I was willing to pay $100 for the right mouse, but
>>>> didn't find one.  The cost of this solution is *nada*.  Good luck!
>>>>
>>> All good reasons why I gave up on mice altogether. Now I use nothing
>>> but Logitech 'thumb' trackballs. Whenever I'm force by circumstances
>>> to use a mouse (especially on a small work surface) or touch pad I'm
>>> reminded immediately how clumsy any mouse is as a pointing device. I
>>> guess YMMV as always but a really good trackball is probably worth a 
>>> try.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, but I have used trackballs in the past and
>> really didn't like them. At work, I was forced into it on a really old
>> server that had the trackball built into the keyboard. Not a very good
>> set-up at all :-(
>> Years ago, a friend who really loved them gave me his old Logitech(?)
>> when he bought a newer one. It had a fairly large ball on it (unlike the
>> keyboard one), but I never got comfortable with it. One problem I have
>> now is arthritis pretty bad in my thumbs, and I'm kind of afraid a
>> trackball may aggravate it.
>>
>> Thanks again!
> Might be a typo but give this link a try.  Claims to have the mouse you 
> want for $49.99.  If it is a typo still might be worth a try to see if 
> they catch it before shipping it to you.  Might even be worth a couple of 
> them to cover the future.  I don't shorten the URL's I get from searching, 
> sorry.
>
> https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV06X56C2742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Mouse-_-9SIV06X56C2742&gclid=COLf54uehNICFYk2gQodCYMHyw
>
> Good hunting...

It went up $10 since you posted- now it's $59.99. That's still a good price 
for a new one; IIRC, it was ~$75 new when I got mine way back when.

Strange that Newegg Business has it for this price, but Newegg has it for 
$499.99+$10.99 shipping! Really? $500 for a mouse?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7XZ4AK0164

 I could see that if it came with its own PC, LOL! "Buy this mouse, and 
we'll throw in a PC at no extra charge!" Yeah, right :-(

Thanks for the link! If I can't find anything else, I just might get one or 
two :-)
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18029

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-13 07:22 -0500
Message-ID<o7s8bf$tji$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18002

"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message news:o7i6un$bb6$1@dont-email.me...
> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I love 
> it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've 
> tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it, but 
> have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've 
> tried:\
>
> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit 
> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in 
> fixing/replacing it):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too 
> vertical):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at 
> least large enough for me):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large 
> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything 
> else closer to the MS):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I wear 
> a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the 
> rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use before 
> going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This mouse sucks" 
> decision.
>
> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly 
> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like to 
> hear your experiences with one.
>
> TIA!!


Well, back to square one. I ordered the 6000 on Friday and got an email 
today that the order has been cancelled. No explanation, but I'm assuming 
there was a sudden run in Hong Kong on these mice; the were "20+ in stock" 
when I placed the order, and now they are unavailable.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions/ideas. Guess I'll keep looking. You would 
think if the 6000 was THAT popular, someone would at least be making a 
knock-off of it :-(

-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18033

FromGlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io>
Date2017-02-13 15:07 -0600
Message-ID<o7t788$1t8p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#18029
On 2/13/2017 6:22 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message news:o7i6un$bb6$1@dont-email.me...
>> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I
>> love it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc.
>> I've tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for
>> it, but have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a
>> few I've tried:\
>>
>> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit
>> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in
>> fixing/replacing it):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too
>> vertical):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at
>> least large enough for me):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large
>> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything
>> else closer to the MS):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>>
>> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I
>> wear a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that
>> makes the rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month
>> of use before going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute
>> "This mouse sucks" decision.
>>
>> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly
>> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like
>> to hear your experiences with one.
>>
>> TIA!!
>
>
> Well, back to square one. I ordered the 6000 on Friday and got an email
> today that the order has been cancelled. No explanation, but I'm
> assuming there was a sudden run in Hong Kong on these mice; the were
> "20+ in stock" when I placed the order, and now they are unavailable.
>
> Thanks for everyone's suggestions/ideas. Guess I'll keep looking. You
> would think if the 6000 was THAT popular, someone would at least be
> making a knock-off of it :-(
>
Yours is as good a guess as to why Newegg cancelled the order, 
especially since they did not offer any reason for the cancellation.

I do see a couple of used units on Ebay as well as one new one, Item 
182432156602, being offered for $39 plus shipping.  There are used 
models available as well.  Just be sure to check them out as I see there 
are different models of the 6000 being offered interchangeably from 
laptop sized to the full sized unit.

Also on the one new item I see the vendor is temporarily out of the 
country and not expected to be responding to emails until some time in 
march.  Still, as long as you don't actually make a payment until they 
respond, then by say PayPal you should be covered for any possible loss.

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#18069

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-25 07:39 -0500
Message-ID<o8rtqg$k8h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18002

"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message news:o7i6un$bb6$1@dont-email.me...
> I have a Microsoft Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KA7PD0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
> that is getting a bit iffy at times. It's a beast of a mouse, but I love 
> it- the way it fits my hand, the easily accessible buttons, etc. I've 
> tried a few different mice, looking for a decent replacement for it, but 
> have found nothing that comes close to it for me. Here are a few I've 
> tried:\
>
> Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX (This was the closest, but quit 
> working less than 3 months after I bought it. Logitech was no help in 
> fixing/replacing it):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HWRJBM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> Anker Ergonomic USB 2.4G Wireless Vertical Mouse (close, but too 
> vertical):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LR04B8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> Logitech M510 Wireless Large Mouse (not really a "large" mouse, or at 
> least large enough for me):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> Anker® Full-Size Ergonomic Wireless Mouse (very close, but quite large 
> enough. This is the one I will probably stick with if I can't anything 
> else closer to the MS):
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B0TXEEY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> My hands aren't all THAT big that everything should feel so small (I wear 
> a medium glove). I guess it's just the bulk of the 6000 that makes the 
> rest feel puny. And I did give most of them at least a month of use before 
> going back to the 6000, so it wasn't just a 10-minute "This mouse sucks" 
> decision.
>
> If anyone has a suggestion for a similar mouse that isn't exorbitantly 
> priced (I'd like to stay well under US$50 if possible), I would like to 
> hear your experiences with one.
>
> TIA!!


Well, I found one I like. It's a Logitech M705:
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TG75EG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

It's not as tall as the 6000, but the length and width are there, and what 
seems now to be the important part of it fitting well, the tilt of the 
buttons is the same as the 6000. The other mice I tried were either too 
vertical, or the buttons were parallel to the mouse pad, forcing my hand too 
far to the left. Hopefully this Logitech will hold up better than the MX I 
had.

And, about the "3-year battery life claim"- I put a fresh pair of 
rechargeable AA cells in it and the SetPoint software said it had 900+ days 
left. Now, after almost 2 weeks of use, it says 632 days left. After these 
run down, I might try a fresh pair of alkalines in it to see what happens 
:-)

Thanks for everyone's suggestions :-)
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18070

FromBill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net>
Date2017-02-25 22:29 -0500
Message-ID<o8ti2c0260p@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#18069
SC Tom wrote:
> Well, I found one I like. It's a Logitech M705:
> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TG75EG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>
>

The few times I've tried wireless mice, I experienced "lag" so I've 
stuck with corded mice.
It's been a few years.  Are corded mice faster (to an amount someone 
could discern?).
Thanks,
Bill

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#18075

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2017-02-26 07:28 -0500
Message-ID<o8uhho$746$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18070

"Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
news:o8ti2c0260p@news4.newsguy.com...
> SC Tom wrote:
>> Well, I found one I like. It's a Logitech M705:
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TG75EG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>
> The few times I've tried wireless mice, I experienced "lag" so I've stuck 
> with corded mice.
> It's been a few years.  Are corded mice faster (to an amount someone could 
> discern?).
> Thanks,
> Bill

I've never noticed any lag, even when play an FPS game, but then it's been 
years since I've used a corded mouse.
Some mice have a "sleep" feature to help extend battery life; I find that 
annoying.
-- 

SC Tom
 

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#18076

FromBill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net>
Date2017-02-26 09:21 -0500
Message-ID<o8uo990b1n@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#18075
SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
> news:o8ti2c0260p@news4.newsguy.com...
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> Well, I found one I like. It's a Logitech M705:
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TG75EG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The few times I've tried wireless mice, I experienced "lag" so I've 
>> stuck with corded mice.
>> It's been a few years.  Are corded mice faster (to an amount someone 
>> could discern?).
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>
> I've never noticed any lag, even when play an FPS game, but then it's 
> been years since I've used a corded mouse.
> Some mice have a "sleep" feature to help extend battery life; I find 
> that annoying.

Yes, I went and did some "research" after I made my post. The sleep 
feature was mentioned. Another concern (to me) would be the 
compatibility of the mouse with Linux, or during a new installation of 
Windows.  I don't think I'm going to give up my cord just yet.

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#18077

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2017-02-26 15:27 -0500
Message-ID<o8vdkf$d2t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18076
Bill wrote:
> SC Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
>> news:o8ti2c0260p@news4.newsguy.com...
>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>> Well, I found one I like. It's a Logitech M705:
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TG75EG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The few times I've tried wireless mice, I experienced "lag" so I've 
>>> stuck with corded mice.
>>> It's been a few years.  Are corded mice faster (to an amount someone 
>>> could discern?).
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>
>> I've never noticed any lag, even when play an FPS game, but then it's 
>> been years since I've used a corded mouse.
>> Some mice have a "sleep" feature to help extend battery life; I find 
>> that annoying.
> 
> Yes, I went and did some "research" after I made my post. The sleep 
> feature was mentioned. Another concern (to me) would be the 
> compatibility of the mouse with Linux, or during a new installation of 
> Windows.  I don't think I'm going to give up my cord just yet.

If the nano-receiver of a wireless mouse shows up as a "USB HID",
it should be OS agnostic.

Serial (RS232) mice are different. They even work in Win10. But
on Linux, I think only Puppy would use one. The other distros always use
my USB mouse, and ignore the serial port as a potential serial mouse
source.

    Paul

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#18078

From"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2017-02-26 16:47 -0500
Message-ID<op.ywaetqvga3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net>
In reply to#18077
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:27:48 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> Serial (RS232) mice are different. They even work in Win10. But
> on Linux, I think only Puppy would use one. The other distros always use
> my USB mouse, and ignore the serial port as a potential serial mouse
> source.

Likely just need to load the kernel module sermouse to get the mouse
to work in any linux distro.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

-- 
Change dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org to davidwhodgins@teksavvy.com for
email replies.

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#18081

FromBill <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net>
Date2017-02-26 22:20 -0500
Message-ID<o905ud01hnp@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#18077
Paul wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>>
>>>> The few times I've tried wireless mice, I experienced "lag" so I've 
>>>> stuck with corded mice.
>>>> It's been a few years.  Are corded mice faster (to an amount 
>>>> someone could discern?).
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> I've never noticed any lag, even when play an FPS game, but then 
>>> it's been years since I've used a corded mouse.
>>> Some mice have a "sleep" feature to help extend battery life; I find 
>>> that annoying.
>>
>> Yes, I went and did some "research" after I made my post. The sleep 
>> feature was mentioned. Another concern (to me) would be the 
>> compatibility of the mouse with Linux, or during a new installation 
>> of Windows.  I don't think I'm going to give up my cord just yet.
>
> If the nano-receiver of a wireless mouse shows up as a "USB HID",
> it should be OS agnostic.
>
> Serial (RS232) mice are different. They even work in Win10. But
> on Linux, I think only Puppy would use one. The other distros always use
> my USB mouse, and ignore the serial port as a potential serial mouse
> source.
>
>    Paul

Thank you as always for sharing your knowledge and experience!

Bill

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#18083

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2017-02-26 23:30 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1702262329240.5547@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#18077
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017, Paul wrote:

> Bill wrote:
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Bill" <BILL_NOSPAM@whoknows.net> wrote in message 
>>> news:o8ti2c0260p@news4.newsguy.com...
>>>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>>> Well, I found one I like. It's a Logitech M705:
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TG75EG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The few times I've tried wireless mice, I experienced "lag" so I've stuck 
>>>> with corded mice.
>>>> It's been a few years.  Are corded mice faster (to an amount someone 
>>>> could discern?).
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> I've never noticed any lag, even when play an FPS game, but then it's been 
>>> years since I've used a corded mouse.
>>> Some mice have a "sleep" feature to help extend battery life; I find that 
>>> annoying.
>> 
>> Yes, I went and did some "research" after I made my post. The sleep feature 
>> was mentioned. Another concern (to me) would be the compatibility of the 
>> mouse with Linux, or during a new installation of Windows.  I don't think 
>> I'm going to give up my cord just yet.
>
> If the nano-receiver of a wireless mouse shows up as a "USB HID",
> it should be OS agnostic.
>
> Serial (RS232) mice are different. They even work in Win10. But
> on Linux, I think only Puppy would use one. The other distros always use
> my USB mouse, and ignore the serial port as a potential serial mouse
> source.
>
Surely in the early days Linux might have been able to handle serial mice. 
It was a time when things were still solidifying.  But likely the code has 
been removed from the 'standard" kernel, since nobody uses serial mice 
these days, it's either PS/2 or USB.

   Michael

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