Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8

From	Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.freeware, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8
Date	2015-09-26 21:01 +0000
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 14:30:31 -0500, Nobody wrote:

> On 09/17/2015 12:37 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>> On 09/17/15 05:13, chrisv so wittily quipped:
>>> Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a two-edged sword - the product is free, but this means that
>>>>> there is no money for marketing.
>>>>
>>>> what to do about THAT then... *SOMEHOW* there can be a way to
>>>> MONETIZE open source operating systems...
>>>
>>> Obviously, the emerging business model is to give-away, or heavily
>>> subsidize, the "product", and later make money from "app stores", ads,
>>> and such.  FOSS does facilitate these businesses.
>>
>> very true, and it's why it has a BETTER chance of success, because I
>> really think people are about to *REJECT* the idea, particularly with
>> windows 10.
>>
>> For worldwide net stats, W10 is relatively flat in the ~6% range,
>> despite being *FREE*, with a quick spike up front to about 5%, and most
>> of that is 8.x users switching to 10.
>>
>> http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-daily-20150801-20150917
>>
>> http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-weekly-201531-201538
>>
>>
>> and NOW it's leveling off, even going DOWN a bit...
>>
>>
>> So that's Microsoft's attempt at marketing a FREE operating system (for
>> now), which really is NOT free because of the adware and spyware
>> embedded in it.
> 
> I haven't run into a problem with that yet.  I deleted the free games I
> downloaded from their store because the UI really stinks.   No way to
> restart the game, no way to go back to starting defaults, etc.
> 
I haven't deleted any games yet, but yeah, I noticed that too.  A little 
irritating huh? 

> It is cool the way an installing app also shows up as an icon in the
> start menu list with a progress bar under it.
> 
You may have noticed if you did an upgrade that some apps had to be re-
downloaded and had a little down-arrow icon in their tile too.

>> THAT and it stinks on ice because of the 2D look [instead of XP and 7's
>> 3D skeumorphic look],
> 
> It's funny how all the trolls who call Linux desktops "ugly" have been
> silent about that.
> 
>> the "start thing" with its alphabetized 'all apps(sic)' list,
> 
> Yes, it's a pain when you look for "Thunderbird" under "t" and it's not
> there, and you have to remember "MOZILLA Thunderbird," and look under
> "m."  Lots of cases like that.
> 
Yep, sure are.  But once I took some time to move some things to the 
'start tiles' and the taskbar I seldom go there any more.

>> "the METRO" in general, FORCED updates for home users, yotta yotta.
> 
> Being secure, or at least the Windows definition of "secure," means
> having automatic updates always enabled.
> 
The only problem is that sometimes MS screws up a update which can cause 
real issues.  Overall I've not had the issue and even had auto updates on 
in W8/W8.1 too.

>> point being, FREE isn't the issue here.  USABILITY and SUPPORT are.
>>
>> And existing companies like RH *could* take advantage of that.
> 
> Indeed.

I can't fault the 'desktop mode' much.  It works just fine for me.  I'm 
not at all enamored of the 'tablet mode' though.  Just too damned half-
assed to be really useful.  And I'm one that really liked the 'Modern UI' 
on my laptops/hybrids.

Wifi is still twitchy as hell.  Fixed for awhile, then an update which 
makes it twitchy again, followed by one to fix it ad nauseum!  :(




-- 
Lloyd

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Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 14:30 -0500
  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 21:01 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:51 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 22:03 +0000
  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-27 03:18 +0000

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