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| From | Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: C++ Memory Management Question |
| Date | 2012-01-04 22:09 +0000 |
| Message-Id | <pan.2012.01.04.22.09.39.192000@nowhere.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| References | <nn4uf7hmc7c5r5jac8cq8qjhsguk8alh77@4ax.com> <pan.2012.01.01.09.16.37.426000@nowhere.com> <slrnjg9a3h.1ls.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| Organization | Zen Internet |
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:28:51 +0000, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> One final point: on Linux, using too much memory often results not in a >> std::bad_alloc exception (or malloc() returning NULL) but in SIGKILL from >> the kernel's "OOM killer", [...] > > I believe you (and the followups) are using the word "OOM killer" > incorrectly here. The "OOM killer" of Linux is/was a feature which > kills random processes when the OS is desperate for memory. Yes, I'm aware of this, and thought that I had explained it. > Those processes don't have to allocate any memory at all in order to be > candidates for killing. > > http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer That link describes the factors which are used to choose a process to sacrifice. One of them is the amount of memory which it is using. In fact, it says: > 3) we don't kill anything innocent of eating tons of memory That memory doesn't have to come from malloc/new (it could be a result of modifying large portions of the data and/or bss segments, or using a lot of stack), but a process which doesn't use much memory one way or another isn't a likely candidate for being sacrificed. > Possibly, the word you want is "overcommitting". Overcommit is the reason the kernel needs an OOM-killer. If you disable overcommit, the kernel will never find itself in the position of needing to sacrifice a process in order to dig itself out of the hole that overcommitting got it into. But if you do that, don't expect large processes (e.g. Firefox) to be able to spawn any child processes; the fork() will fail unless there's enough free memory to duplicate the parent's entire address space, even though 99% of it will be discarded as soon as exec() is called.
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