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| From | Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: C++ Memory Management Question |
| Date | 2012-01-03 19:46 +0000 |
| Message-Id | <pan.2012.01.03.19.46.18.389000@nowhere.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:53:47 -0500, Datesfat Chicks wrote: > I'm a little surprised at the SIGKILL response. If you're going to > have a std::bad_alloc exception, then it seems an improper > implementation if that exception is useless because the process gets > killed by another mechanism before the exception is thrown. They serve different purposes. std::bad_alloc is thrown if you want more memory but it cannot be provided (i.e. it isn't available from the heap and the OS won't let you enlarge the heap). SIGKILL occurs if the OS decides that it wants the memory which your process already has. The latter is primarily an issue on systems where overcommit is enabled. Overcommit being enabled is the norm; if overcommit is disabled, the OS won't allow a process to fork() unless it can provide sufficient virtual memory to back all writeable pages in the process' address space. This is usually overkill, as most process which call fork() will promptly call execve() having modified only a tiny fraction of their writable memory. The problem comes when the kernel finds that it actually needs more memory than is available, e.g. because one copy-on-write page too many has actually been written to. The only way out of that situation is to revoke allocations which have already been granted by sacrificing an existing process. When doing so, it will typically choose the most "greedy" unprivileged process available. Any process where handling out-of-memory conditions was a significant design consideration would seem to be a likely candidate to be sacrificed. BTW: regarding your original problem (how to handle the C++ side of allocation failures), I remembered std::set_new_handler(). If a handler has been registered via this function, operator new should[1] call it if it cannot obtain the desired memory. In fact, it should call it repeatedly until either the allocation succeeds or the handler unregisters itself (IOW: if you write such a handler, it must unregister itself if it cannot release any more memory, otherwise operator new will get stuck in an infinite loop). std::bad_alloc will only be thrown if allocation fails and no handler is registered. [1] The global operator new can be relied upon to do so; user-defined versions of operator new may be a different matter.
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C++ Memory Management Question Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chicks@gmail.com> - 2011-12-31 08:56 -0500
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2011-12-31 09:44 -0500
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chicks@gmail.com> - 2011-12-31 10:17 -0500
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2011-12-31 13:04 -0500
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-12-31 23:25 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-01 09:39 -0500
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2012-01-01 08:20 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2012-01-01 19:05 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-01 19:36 +0000
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-02 11:26 +0000
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-02 15:54 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2012-01-02 16:26 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-02 16:58 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2012-01-02 21:14 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-03 11:11 +1300
Re: C++ Memory Management Question scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-01-03 20:53 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2012-01-03 21:21 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-04 12:15 +1300
Re: C++ Memory Management Question gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 08:20 -0800
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 00:32 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-03 17:34 +0000
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2012-01-10 22:57 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-03 09:31 +1300
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2012-01-02 21:02 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-03 11:09 +1300
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2012-01-01 18:57 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-01-01 22:04 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Carlo Milanesi <carlo.nospam.milanesi@libero.it> - 2012-01-02 00:37 +0100
Re: C++ Memory Management Question yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2012-01-09 17:41 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Carlo Milanesi <carlo.milanesi@libero.it> - 2012-01-13 08:14 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-01 18:05 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-31 07:25 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Torsten Mueller <dev-null@shared-files.de> - 2011-12-31 16:41 +0100
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-01-01 09:16 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chicks@gmail.com> - 2012-01-02 16:48 -0500
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 00:02 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chicks@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 12:53 -0500
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-01-03 19:46 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 00:11 -0800
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-01-04 09:30 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-04 19:28 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-01-04 22:09 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-05 11:43 +0000
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2012-01-01 18:13 +0100
Re: C++ Memory Management Question "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-01-01 20:11 +0100
Re: C++ Memory Management Question Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chicks@gmail.com> - 2012-01-02 16:51 -0500
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Re: C++ Memory Management Question darylew@gmail.com - 2012-01-10 10:19 -0800
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