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| From | Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) |
| Date | 2011-09-14 22:20 +0100 |
| Message-Id | <pan.2011.09.14.21.20.17.797000@nowhere.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| References | <j4ducg$lmn$1@speranza.aioe.org> <pan.2011.09.14.12.31.49.174000@nowhere.com> <j4qa4f$4hh$1@speranza.aioe.org> <lnpqj2amz7.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> <j4r4in$pv2$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| Organization | Zen Internet |
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:59:03 +0000, Alan Curry wrote: > I've just done this test on several programs. There were many segfaults. > Several print an angry message about argv[0] being NULL and then abort! > It seems to be a "you know exactly what you did and you should be > ashamed of yourself" type of error. > > Most disturbing are the many setuid programs that segfaulted, including > passwd, mount, and su. This isn't necessarily problematic. It's important that setuid programs consider the security implications, but (intentionally) terminating on SIGSEGV isn't inherently worse than terminating on SIGABRT (i.e. explicitly calling abort()). Where it does become a problem is if a program blindly dereferences argv[0] when it has gotten itself into a position where it /needs/ to perform clean-up (e.g. once it has created a lock file). I've seen one setuid program where the startup sequence involved a long sequence of sanity checks, and any failure would result in an immediate _exit(). It wouldn't even risk trying to report errors until the sanity checks were complete.
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hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-09 22:53 +0200
Re: hexump.c tea strainer <nospam@nospam.com> - 2011-09-09 21:06 +0000
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-09 23:57 +0200
Re: hexump.c NicStevens <nic.stevens@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 13:22 -0700
Re: hexump.c Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 09:18 +1200
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-09 23:59 +0200
Re: hexump.c Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2011-09-09 22:29 +0000
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 00:39 +0200
Re: hexump.c Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2011-09-09 22:53 +0000
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 00:58 +0200
Re: hexump.c Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-09-13 06:44 +0000
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-13 10:33 +0200
Re: hexump.c Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-13 18:02 +0200
Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-09-13 16:36 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-13 22:44 +0200
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-14 13:31 +0100
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 15:27 +0200
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2011-09-14 11:49 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 13:27 -0700
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2011-09-14 20:59 +0000
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-14 22:20 +0100
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-09-14 17:20 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2011-09-15 01:51 +0000
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 19:29 -0700
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 19:21 -0700
Re: Teaching C Ben Pfaff <blp@cs.stanford.edu> - 2011-09-14 19:58 -0700
Re: Teaching C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-09-14 21:55 -0600
Re: Teaching C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-09-15 06:54 -0400
Re: Teaching C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-15 11:58 -0700
Re: Teaching C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-24 12:57 -0800
Re: Teaching C Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-15 14:25 +0100
Re: Teaching C Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-09-16 22:00 +0000
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-09-14 12:54 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-09-14 13:26 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 19:33 +0200
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) jameskuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-09-14 11:33 -0700
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 21:17 +0200
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-09-16 11:47 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-09-14 20:43 +0000
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-14 22:35 +0100
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) gordonb.8a7i1@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2011-09-14 17:31 -0500
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 19:32 +0200
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-09-16 11:27 -0400
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-09-16 08:49 -0700
Re: Teaching C (was Re: hexump.c) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-09-17 15:04 -0400
Re: hexump.c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-13 20:31 -0700
Re: hexump.c Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-09-14 03:22 -0700
Re: hexump.c "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-09-14 11:40 +0100
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 13:54 +0200
Re: hexump.c Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-14 13:50 +0100
Re: hexump.c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 11:35 -0700
Re: hexump.c Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-09-14 19:12 +0000
Re: hexump.c John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2011-09-14 15:31 -0700
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-15 00:59 +0200
Re: hexump.c Kleuskes & Moos <kleuske@somewhere.else.net> - 2011-09-14 23:14 +0000
Re: hexump.c John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2011-09-15 08:52 -0700
Re: hexump.c Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2011-09-14 21:22 +0200
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 21:26 +0200
Re: hexump.c Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-15 07:32 +1200
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-14 21:44 +0200
Re: hexump.c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 13:49 -0700
Re: hexump.c Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-09-16 00:50 +0300
Re: hexump.c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-15 18:34 -0700
Re: hexump.c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 12:16 -0700
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Re: Hypocrites Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-09-14 19:11 -0700
Re: hexump.c Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-09-14 15:05 +0100
Re: hexump.c Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-09-14 07:56 -0700
Re: hexump.c "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-09-14 17:23 +0100
Re: hexump.c Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-09-14 19:12 +0000
Re: hexump.c John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2011-09-14 15:24 -0700
Re: hexump.c gordonb.ik17p@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2011-09-09 18:16 -0500
Re: hexump.c Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-09-12 22:24 +0000
Re: hexump.c "Morris Keesan" <mkeesan@post.harvard.edu> - 2011-09-09 20:33 -0400
Re: hexump.c Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 12:42 +1200
Re: hexump.c "Morris Keesan" <mkeesan@post.harvard.edu> - 2011-09-10 17:16 -0400
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 10:03 +0200
Re: hexump.c Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-10 10:04 +0100
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 11:41 +0200
Re: hexump.c pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-09-10 05:51 -0400
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 12:38 +0200
Re: hexump.c Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-10 17:53 +0100
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 12:46 +0200
Re: hexump.c Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-09-10 13:03 +0100
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-10 15:34 +0200
Re: hexump.c "Morris Keesan" <mkeesan@post.harvard.edu> - 2011-09-10 17:37 -0400
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-11 00:10 +0200
Re: hexump.c Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-10 21:03 -0700
Re: hexump.c Barry Schwarz <schwarz45@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-11 00:37 -0700
Re: hexump.c jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-09-11 13:56 +0200
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