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| Subject | Re: The parties never switched on race. Everyone knows it. |
| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
| References | <Yr7OR.121434$0hf2.62968@fx44.iad> <10ug5cf$3d6jc$3@news.tcpreset.net> <w4lQR.51260$ru1.10124@fx40.iad> <egm51lham78ndve92cpcvsk1gi5ialesrr@4ax.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-24 18:11 +0000 |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:egm51lham78ndve92cpcvsk1gi5ialesrr@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 23 May 2026 10:02:20 -0700, Gary Roselles
> <Yeowrghis@Jurgis.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <w4lQR.51260$ru1.10124@fx40.iad> wrote:
>
>>On 5/18/2026 3:55 PM, bondrock@ifx.net wrote:
>>> On 16 May 2026, Gary Roselles <Yeowrghis@Jurgis.net> posted some
>>> news:Yr7OR.121434$0hf2.62968@fx44.iad:
>>>
>>>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors?
>>>
>>> Historians.
>>
>>Bullshit. Those memorials are not "history." They are monuments to
>>FAKE history.
>
> What part of it is fake? The monuments were erected by the
> local people who were the same people who filled the ranks
> of the Confederate Army and provided the people who were so
> honored.
>
Most confederate monuments were built
in the 1900's as a snub to emerging civil
rights movements, And not by civil war veterans
like Lee who opposesd the effort
AI Overview:
The vast majority of Confederate statues were
erected decades after the Civil War ended, with
the largest spikes occurring between the 1890s
and 1920s, and a second wave during the 1950s
and 1960s.This timeline directly correlates
with periods of intense racial tension and
political conflict, rather than immediate post-
war mourning:The Jim Crow Era (1890s–1920s):
Most monuments were erected during this time by
groups like the United Daughters of the Confederacy
(UDC). This coincided with the implementation of
segregation laws, the disenfranchisement of Black
Americans, and a revival of the Ku Klux Klan.The
Civil Rights Movement (Late 1950s–1960s): A
secondary wave of monument building and the
adoption of Confederate symbols occurred as a
direct pushback against desegregation and the
fight for equal rights.
> Remember Robert E Lee was offered command of the Union Army
> before he resigned his US commission and took command of
> Virginia's state forces.
Remember Robert E Lee who opposed building
ANY statues to himself or other Confederate
generals.
Robert E. Lee opposed Confederate monuments
Aug 15, 2017
At the center of the "Unite the Right"
rally that turned deadly in Charlottesville
last weekend was a protest of the city's
plan to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee.
White supremacists, neo-Nazis and others
have made monuments to the Confederate
commanding general a flashpoint - at
times marching to keep them standing.
But Lee himself never wanted such
monuments built.
"I think it wiser," the retired military
leader wrote about a proposed Gettysburg
memorial in 1869, ".not to keep open the
sores of war but to follow the examples
of those nations who endeavored to
obliterate the marks of civil strife,
to commit to oblivion the feelings
engendered."
In his writings, Lee cited multiple
reasons for opposing such monuments,
questioning the cost of a potential
Stonewall Jackson monument, for
example. But underlying it all was
one rationale: That the war had
ended, and the South needed to move
on and avoid more upheaval.
"Lee believed countries that erased
visible signs of civil war recovered
from conflicts quicker," Horn said.
"He was worried that by keeping these
symbols alive, it would keep the
divisions alive."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-
monuments
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