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Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again

Newsgroups talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
Subject Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again
From Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
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Message-Id <XnsB410D57C2CB83629555@185.151.15.190>
Date 2026-03-16 01:59 +0000

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bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:10p7dr8$e47$2@reader2.panix.com: 

>>> | The Pentagon and National Security Council significantly
>>> | underestimated Iran's willingness to close the Strait of
>>> | Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning
>>> | the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources
>>> | familiar with the matter. 
> 
> | ... 
> | At a meeting in the Oval Office last week, a frustrated Mr.
> | Trump pressed Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint
> | Chiefs of Staff, about why the United States could not
> | immediately reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
> | 
> | The answer was straightforward: Even one Iranian soldier or
> | militia member zipping across the narrow neck of the strait
> | in a speedboat could fire a mobile missile right into a
> | slow-moving supertanker, or plant a limpet mine on its hull.
> | 
> | With oil already hovering around $100 a barrel, and
> | insurance premiums for transiting the Persian Gulf surging,
> | the image of more burning tankers would make the Iranians
> | look more powerful than they really are. Already, having
> | seen Iran attack shipping around the strait, tanker owners
> | are refusing to take the risk, even after Mr. Trump
> | declared on Fox last Sunday that they should "show some
> | guts."
> | ...
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/trump-stark-choices-ira
> n-war.html> 
> 
>     --bks
> 
> And then back to the golf course, natch.
> 




"I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to
have time to go play golf"
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"Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-11 10:18 -0400
  Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Lee <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 14:56 +0000
    Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-11 08:35 -0700
      Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Ken <Ken@invalid.com> - 2026-03-11 11:31 -0500
    Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Ken <Ken@invalid.com> - 2026-03-11 11:33 -0500
      Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-11 15:50 -0400
        Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-11 13:12 -0700
        Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-11 23:06 +0000
          Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-12 06:39 -0400
            Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-12 03:46 -0700
              Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-12 13:33 +0000
              Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2026-03-13 12:32 -0500
    Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-12 14:09 -0400
      Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-12 23:38 +0000
        Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-13 01:37 +0000
          Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-13 12:38 +0000
            Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-15 23:03 +0000
              Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-16 01:59 +0000
                Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-16 13:10 +0000
                Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-16 13:45 +0000
                Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-17 11:23 +0000
                Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-18 07:34 -0400
                Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-23 12:03 +0000
                Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-30 18:18 +0000
        Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again California Union Pension Spiker <stealing-from-taxpayers@ca.gov> - 2026-03-13 15:05 +0000
          Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Lee <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 15:44 +0000
            Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-13 16:38 +0000
              Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-13 14:30 -0400
              "Will feel it in his bonespurs" Re: "Unconditional Surrender" Is Redefined Yet Again Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-18 23:23 -0600

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