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Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence

From D <J@M>
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Date 2025-03-31 04:15 +0200
Subject Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence
Newsgroups news.admin.hierarchies
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On 30 Mar 2025 23:29:03 GMT, Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>### **Request for Discussion: Creation of the ai.* Hierarchy**
>We, Bingo3331 and Corrado Roberto, are excited to propose the establishment
> of `ai.*` as a new top-level hierarchy on Usenet, dedicated to artificial
> intelligence (AI) a transformative field that deserves a prominent and
> dedicated space in our network. Initially, the hierarchy will host
> Italian-language groups under `ai.ita.*`, but it is designed to be scalable
> and accommodate international communities in the future (e.g., `ai.eng.*`,
> `ai.fr.*`). Below, we outline the details and the compelling benefits for
> the Usenet community.
>---
>### **Proposed Initial Groups**
>1. **ai.ita.general**
>   Charter: "General discussions on artificial intelligence. Primary
> language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only, no binaries."
>2. **ai.ita.chatgpt**
>   Charter: "Discussions on ChatGPT: news, uses, and developments. Primary
> language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only."
>3. **ai.ita.deepseek**
>   Charter: "Discussions on DeepSeek: news and applications. Primary
> language: Italian. English posts permitted. Text-only."
>4. **ai.ita.grok**
>   Charter: "Discussions on Grok: updates and usage. Primary language:
> Italian.
> English posts welcome. Text-only."
>5. **ai.ita.image-gen**
>   Charter: "Discussions on AI image generators (e.g., Midjourney, DALL-E).
> Primary language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only, no binaries."
>6. **ai.ita.video-gen**
>   Charter: "Discussions on AI video and film generators (e.g., Sora).
> Primary language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only, no binaries."
>7. **ai.ita.stats**
>   Charter: "Statistics and analysis of ai.ita.* group usage: users, posts,
> trends. Primary language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only."
>---
>### **Why ai.* as a Top-Level Hierarchy?**
>#### **1. AI is a Globally Significant Topic**
>Artificial intelligence is reshaping technology and society from chatbots
> like ChatGPT and Grok to multimedia generators. Usenet, with its rich
> history of technical discourse (e.g., `comp.*`, `sci.*`), is the perfect
> platform for a dedicated AI hierarchy. While `comp.ai.*` exists, it is
> outdated and underutilized, failing to capture the breadth and dynamism of
> modern AI. `ai.*` fills this gap with a forward-looking approach.
>#### **2. Scalable and Inclusive Design**
>Unlike a sub-hierarchy such as `alt.ai.*`, a top-level `ai.*` provides a
> robust foundation for growth. We begin with `ai.ita.*` to serve the vibrant
> Italian Usenet community already active in `it.*` but the structure
> supports future expansion to other languages (e.g., `ai.eng.*`, `ai.de.*`)
> or sub-topics (e.g., `ai.ethics.*`, `ai.tools.*`). This scalability ensures
> `ai.*` can evolve with the field.
>#### **3. Revitalizing Usenet**
>Usenet has seen declining participation. A modern, high-profile hierarchy
> like `ai.*`, focused on a trending topic, can attract both seasoned users
> and newcomers fascinated by AI. The bilingual approach of `ai.ita.*`
> (Italian primary, English welcome) bridges local and global communities,
> boosting engagement across borders.
>#### **4. Alignment with Existing Hierarchies**
>`ai.*` fits naturally alongside top-level hierarchies like `comp.*`
> (computers), `sci.*` (science), and `rec.*` (recreation) as a distinct
> thematic domain. It's not a miscellaneous experiment suited for `alt.*`,
> but a deliberate, structured proposal with clear purpose and growth
> potential.
>#### **5. Operational Simplicity**
>The proposed groups are text-only, aligning with the capabilities of most
> Usenet servers. The inclusion of `ai.ita.stats` offers a practical tool to
> monitor activity and optimize the hierarchy, preventing the proliferation
> of empty or redundant groups a common issue elsewhere.
>---
>### **Request to Admins**
>We, Bingo3331 and Corrado Roberto, respectfully ask news server
> administrators to:
>1. **Propagate the ai.* Hierarchy**: Add `ai.*` to your `active` and
> `newsgroups` files, starting with the `ai.ita.*` groups listed above. This
> will ensure AI discussions reach a global audience.
>2. **Forward Control Messages**: Support the PGP-signed `newgroup` and
> `checkgroups` messages we will issue to create and maintain these groups.
> Corrado Roberto's PGP key (active since 1998) is available for
> verification.
>3. **Establish Peering**: Collaborate with us to set up peering agreements,
> particularly with Italian servers (e.g., `it.*`) and major international
> ones (e.g., Eternal September), for seamless propagation. Contact Corrado
> Roberto at <roberto@corradoroberto.it> for technical coordination.
>---
>### **Motivation and Appeal**
>AI is not a passing trend it's the future of technology. Usenet can remain
> relevant by embracing `ai.*`, a hierarchy that reflects today's innovations
> while honoring our tradition of open discussion. Let's not confine AI to
> the catch-all chaos of `alt.*`. Instead, let's give it the prominence it
> deserves with a top-level hierarchy that can thrive and expand.
>We invite the community and admins to discuss this proposal. We're open to
> feedback to refine the names, charters, or approach. With sufficient
> support, we'll proceed with a Call for Votes (CFV) to formalize `ai.*`.
>Thank you for your time and consideration!
>Bingo3331
>Roberto Corrado
>news admin of news.corradoroberto.it

"usenet has seen declining participation" seems to be a prevailing theme

many, if not most, newsgroups that might've been active decades ago have
gone silent . . . artificial anything is better than superficial nothing

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Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-03-30 23:29 +0000
  Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence D <J@M> - 2025-03-31 04:15 +0200
    Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-01 15:10 +0000
      Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence D <J@M> - 2025-04-01 18:19 +0200
        Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-01 17:41 +0000
          Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence D <J@M> - 2025-04-02 17:30 +0200
  Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-31 08:47 +0100
    Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-01 17:09 +0000
      Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 19:18 +0100
  Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-03-31 19:42 +0200
    Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-01 17:26 +0000
      Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-04-01 20:00 +0200
  Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-04-01 17:38 +0200
    Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-01 16:48 +0000
      Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-04-01 21:34 +0200
        Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-04-02 09:14 +0200
        Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-04 17:17 +0000
          Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial   Intelligence "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-04-04 18:07 +0000
  Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-08-02 18:17 +0000
    Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Chris Jacobs <ctjacobs@ziggo.nl.invalid> - 2025-08-02 20:31 +0200
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