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| From | D <J@M> |
|---|---|
| Message-Id | <20250331.041540.401eccfa@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
| References | <m4u2dvFq8dlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| Date | 2025-03-31 04:15 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence |
| Newsgroups | news.admin.hierarchies |
| Organization | dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider |
On 30 Mar 2025 23:29:03 GMT, Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >### **Request for Discussion: Creation of the ai.* Hierarchy** >We, Bingo3331 and Corrado Roberto, are excited to propose the establishment > of `ai.*` as a new top-level hierarchy on Usenet, dedicated to artificial > intelligence (AI) a transformative field that deserves a prominent and > dedicated space in our network. Initially, the hierarchy will host > Italian-language groups under `ai.ita.*`, but it is designed to be scalable > and accommodate international communities in the future (e.g., `ai.eng.*`, > `ai.fr.*`). Below, we outline the details and the compelling benefits for > the Usenet community. >--- >### **Proposed Initial Groups** >1. **ai.ita.general** > Charter: "General discussions on artificial intelligence. Primary > language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only, no binaries." >2. **ai.ita.chatgpt** > Charter: "Discussions on ChatGPT: news, uses, and developments. Primary > language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only." >3. **ai.ita.deepseek** > Charter: "Discussions on DeepSeek: news and applications. Primary > language: Italian. English posts permitted. Text-only." >4. **ai.ita.grok** > Charter: "Discussions on Grok: updates and usage. Primary language: > Italian. > English posts welcome. Text-only." >5. **ai.ita.image-gen** > Charter: "Discussions on AI image generators (e.g., Midjourney, DALL-E). > Primary language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only, no binaries." >6. **ai.ita.video-gen** > Charter: "Discussions on AI video and film generators (e.g., Sora). > Primary language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only, no binaries." >7. **ai.ita.stats** > Charter: "Statistics and analysis of ai.ita.* group usage: users, posts, > trends. Primary language: Italian. English posts welcome. Text-only." >--- >### **Why ai.* as a Top-Level Hierarchy?** >#### **1. AI is a Globally Significant Topic** >Artificial intelligence is reshaping technology and society from chatbots > like ChatGPT and Grok to multimedia generators. Usenet, with its rich > history of technical discourse (e.g., `comp.*`, `sci.*`), is the perfect > platform for a dedicated AI hierarchy. While `comp.ai.*` exists, it is > outdated and underutilized, failing to capture the breadth and dynamism of > modern AI. `ai.*` fills this gap with a forward-looking approach. >#### **2. Scalable and Inclusive Design** >Unlike a sub-hierarchy such as `alt.ai.*`, a top-level `ai.*` provides a > robust foundation for growth. We begin with `ai.ita.*` to serve the vibrant > Italian Usenet community already active in `it.*` but the structure > supports future expansion to other languages (e.g., `ai.eng.*`, `ai.de.*`) > or sub-topics (e.g., `ai.ethics.*`, `ai.tools.*`). This scalability ensures > `ai.*` can evolve with the field. >#### **3. Revitalizing Usenet** >Usenet has seen declining participation. A modern, high-profile hierarchy > like `ai.*`, focused on a trending topic, can attract both seasoned users > and newcomers fascinated by AI. The bilingual approach of `ai.ita.*` > (Italian primary, English welcome) bridges local and global communities, > boosting engagement across borders. >#### **4. Alignment with Existing Hierarchies** >`ai.*` fits naturally alongside top-level hierarchies like `comp.*` > (computers), `sci.*` (science), and `rec.*` (recreation) as a distinct > thematic domain. It's not a miscellaneous experiment suited for `alt.*`, > but a deliberate, structured proposal with clear purpose and growth > potential. >#### **5. Operational Simplicity** >The proposed groups are text-only, aligning with the capabilities of most > Usenet servers. The inclusion of `ai.ita.stats` offers a practical tool to > monitor activity and optimize the hierarchy, preventing the proliferation > of empty or redundant groups a common issue elsewhere. >--- >### **Request to Admins** >We, Bingo3331 and Corrado Roberto, respectfully ask news server > administrators to: >1. **Propagate the ai.* Hierarchy**: Add `ai.*` to your `active` and > `newsgroups` files, starting with the `ai.ita.*` groups listed above. This > will ensure AI discussions reach a global audience. >2. **Forward Control Messages**: Support the PGP-signed `newgroup` and > `checkgroups` messages we will issue to create and maintain these groups. > Corrado Roberto's PGP key (active since 1998) is available for > verification. >3. **Establish Peering**: Collaborate with us to set up peering agreements, > particularly with Italian servers (e.g., `it.*`) and major international > ones (e.g., Eternal September), for seamless propagation. Contact Corrado > Roberto at <roberto@corradoroberto.it> for technical coordination. >--- >### **Motivation and Appeal** >AI is not a passing trend it's the future of technology. Usenet can remain > relevant by embracing `ai.*`, a hierarchy that reflects today's innovations > while honoring our tradition of open discussion. Let's not confine AI to > the catch-all chaos of `alt.*`. Instead, let's give it the prominence it > deserves with a top-level hierarchy that can thrive and expand. >We invite the community and admins to discuss this proposal. We're open to > feedback to refine the names, charters, or approach. With sufficient > support, we'll proceed with a Call for Votes (CFV) to formalize `ai.*`. >Thank you for your time and consideration! >Bingo3331 >Roberto Corrado >news admin of news.corradoroberto.it "usenet has seen declining participation" seems to be a prevailing theme many, if not most, newsgroups that might've been active decades ago have gone silent . . . artificial anything is better than superficial nothing
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Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-03-30 23:29 +0000
Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence D <J@M> - 2025-03-31 04:15 +0200
Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-04-01 15:10 +0000
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Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 19:18 +0100
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