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Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.

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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:07:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :


>>> I have a Swiss friend who told me how a friend of his using an iphone is
>>> very happy now because she now has RCS and can exchange messages with
>>> photos and videos with friends of hers that may or may not have an iphone.
>> 
>> For this purpose a selection of messengers exist for many years which
>> are more versatile and much more trustworthy.
> 
> For some reason, this person can not use them. One reason is that she 
> has to find out which messenger the other side is using; being several, 
> it becomes more useful to use RCS which everybody has.

Hi Carlos, 
I'll agree with anyone who makes a sensibly logical statement and disagree
with that same person if they don't, where I understand your friend's
predicament since I have the same problem, only less so than she does.

In my situation, there are only family members who have iPhones (generally
the girls have iPhones and the boys have Android) where the girls are also
not technically astute (neither are some of the boys) which adds an element
of frustration to the mix when they're on an iPhone because they don't tend
to seek out working solutions outside the Apple ecosystem, as it's foreign
to them to think how do so something when Apple doesn't tell them how.

As far as I know, Tim Cook said the answer to the question of why can't
iPhone users communicate with the real world when he famously quipped
  *Buy your Mom an iPhone!*

Notice this is bona fide proof that Apple had no intention of ever working
in the real world when that statement comes from the very top of Apple.
 *Tim Cook says 'buy your mom an iPhone' when asked about RCS*
 <https://www.androidauthority.com/tim-cook-rcs-iphone-3206620/>

It's clear that Apple products aren't ever tested in the real world.
 "Google's SVP of Android Hiroshi Lockheimer has responded to 
  the Apple CEO's comments about RCS. He says people shouldn't 
  have to buy their moms new iPhones just to send photos & videos."

The sad part is Apple doesn't care about even its own customers.
The only thing Apple cares about is to lock them into their system.

Apple's strategy is the iPhone is a dumb terminal which is a slave to
Cupertino servers to the point that if you don't constantly log into
Apple's mothership server farm (it nags you 10X a day!) Apple bricks them.
(Ask me how I know this fact.)

Note: The Apple trolls don't know that the iPad is logging into Apple
servers 10X a day because they actually log in; I do not. So I know.

Back to your friend's problem, there are only two "good" solutions:
a. She has to find a VOIP messenger that all her friends are using
b. Or, she has to ask all her friends to buy her an iPhone :)

I have the same problem she has, but we've solved it using WhatsApp.

I don't like that I have to have a WA dialer just to keep my contacts out
of WhatsApp's hands (although they're hashed), but I do it for the video!

I presume when Apple and Google make their future joint announcement that
they simultaneously support RCS with encryption, we'll all be happier.

RCS is one more step for Apple to be forced to work in the real world.

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Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:40 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-17 21:32 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 01:32 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 07:25 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:17 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:15 +0100
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:31 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 14:12 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:25 +0100
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 23:11 +0100
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 02:08 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:07 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 17:07 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 11:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:31 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 21:40 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 14:12 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:21 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 19:47 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:10 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-26 15:36 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:32 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 15:01 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-28 17:22 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 18:31 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:46 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:13 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 21:41 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-20 03:32 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:31 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 20:34 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-17 13:43 -0700
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 06:58 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:12 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:44 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 18:20 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 02:38 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:20 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-19 10:32 +0000
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 15:58 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 16:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:30 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 18:09 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 18:37 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:48 -0600
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-19 16:55 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-03-21 14:41 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 17:08 +0000

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