Re: Python recompile

From	bart <bc@freeuk.com>
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Subject	Re: Python recompile
Date	2025-03-14 23:16 +0000
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On 14/03/2025 22:15, Keith Thompson wrote:
> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> On 14/03/2025 20:04, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>> On 14/03/2025 18:00, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> [...]
>>>>>> What I'm suggesting goes in the middle. A minimal, streamlined set of
>>>>>> sources, possibly amalgamated (which helps if the user wants to
>>>>>> incorporate this product into their own), with a minimal set of
>>>>>> dependencies.
>>>>> Why on earth would a developer do this just to make -your- life
>>>>> easier?   Nobody else is complaining endlessly about it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you'd like to answer the question I posed about why bother
>>>> with distributing software as binaries if building from source is so
>>>> effortless.
>>> Nobody said it was "effortless".  You made that up.
> 
> No response to that?
> 
> You misrepresent what others have said, and don't reply when it's
> pointed out.
> 
> If you can cite someone here actually saying that building from source
> is "effortless", I'll retract this statement.

Every single post arguing against me implies that it is effortless: that 
is, all you have to do is type 'make'.

NO ONE wants to admit to building can be a difficult process. Or they 
do, they will not admit of any alternative but to provide a binary.

>>> I can install a binary software package on my computer without
>>> needing a compiler, and it typically takes a few seconds because
>>> someone else has done the work of building it.  I happen to have
>>> a compiler, but not everyone does.  If I have the sources, I can
>>> probably install a newer version than my OS makes available, and
>>> perhaps I can choose some configuration options.  And yes, it's a
>>> bit more effort.
>>
>> A 'bit more effort' is an understatement. It needs more
>> dependencies. It will take much longer. And it's more likely to fail.
>>
>> So I suggested an intermediate compromise that is suited for when your
>> aim /isn't/ to work on the product yourself.
> 
> If I understand correctly, you want one build system for developer and
> a simpler one for end users.  Is that accurate?
> 
> By all means feel free to make such a thing.  But having two different
> build systems means they both have to be maintained.  It makes it more
> likely that something works correctly for the developers and fails for
> end users.

Wouldn't that be the case for both types of build? And which one kind is 
more likely to fail?

You can well find that a simpler build process results in fewer issues 
overall.

> And it's useful only for end users who build from source.  I do that,
> but most users don't.  Even in my case, the vast majority of the
> software on my system is installed from pre-built binaries via the OS's
> package management system.  For a more typical user, it's likely that
> all of it is.

> So in a sense the simpler build system you want already exists: copying
> binary files to where they need to be.

If a binary files exists, and if AV will let me download it, or run it.

I have a problem supplying binaries to anyone who wants to run my 
programs on their Windows machine. So I use my own intermediate 
representations. They look like this:

   c:\qx>mc -c qc
   M6 Compiling qc.m---------- to qc.c

   c:\qx>dir qc.c
   14/03/2025  22:39         1,095,211 qc.c

'mc' is a transpiler which converts dozens of modules into one C file. 
That C file is what is downloaded by the user. The build process on 
Windows is this:

   c:\qx\gcc qc.c

You see how utterly simple it can be and how trivial it is to build?

The file I generate corresponds 1:1 with the binary file that I would 
have prefered to provide. It's as simple as a binary, and needs only 
that one-line step to turn into an actual binary.

The above is for Windows however; for Linux it's a bit harder:

   c:\qx>mc -c -linux qc -out:qu
   M6 Compiling qc.m---------- to qu.c

Here gcc on Linux needs a couple more options, and a binary would not be 
an option even without AV issues.

So, a build CAN be this simple. You might say, these are small products 
and real ones are more complicated. Well take a look at NASM: 
https://github.com/netwide-assembler/nasm/tree/master, and in INSTALL.

It supposedly builds on Windows, but I can't make head or tail of the 
instructions. There are 2000 files here in two dozen directories.

NASM is an x64 assembler; I have one of those too; I can also provide a 
single C file which can be trivially built.

So your arguments are spurious. You're making excuses about why such 
things are not possible or are too hard while knowing little about it.

>> As I showed, it is very easy when you dump the 'convoluted' build system!
> 
> Great.  Show us how you can "dump the 'convoluted' build system" for,
> say, GNU coreutils.

I don't know those products. Maybe they are already ten times more 
complex than need be. For the products I create (compilers, 
interpreters, assemblers, backends) there is no build system to speak 
of, and I've showed two examples.

The build process involved download and compiling one source file. 
Sorry, I haven't managed to reduce it to zero source files!

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    Re: Python recompile Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-02 19:15 +0000
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      Re: Python recompile doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-03-03 00:42 +0000
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      Re: Python recompile antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-03 17:20 +0000
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