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Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this?

From Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this?
Date 2024-05-18 18:33 -0400
Organization i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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On 5/18/24 5:40 PM, olcott wrote:
> People are saying that they have no idea what this code does
> because they do not believe it conforms to c11 or c17.
> 
> typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function
> 00 int H(ptr x, ptr y);
> 01 int D(ptr x)
> 02 {
> 03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
> 04   if (Halt_Status)
> 05     HERE: goto HERE;
> 06   return Halt_Status;
> 07 }
> 08
> 09 int main()
> 10 {
> 11   H(D,D);
> 12   return 0;
> 13 }
> 
> In the above case a simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates
> at least one of the x86 instructions of D in the order specified by the
> x86 instructions of D.
> 
> This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of H in the
> order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling H(D,D) in
> recursive simulation.
> 
> *Execution Trace*
> Line 11: main() invokes H(D,D);
> 
> *keeps repeating* (unless aborted)

But since you have defined that H WILL abort, that is irrelevant.

> Line 01:
> Line 02:
> Line 03: simulated D(D) invokes simulated H(D,D) that simulates D(D)
> 
> *Simulation invariant*
> D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own line 03.
> 
> The key thing to note is that no D correctly simulated by any H of every
> H/D pair specified by the above template ever reaches its own line 06
> and halts.
> 

Without defining what H is, you can't define what the simulation is.

You are just showing that you don't understand what you are talking about.

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Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 16:40 -0500
  Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 18:33 -0400
  Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of         this? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-18 21:12 -0400
    Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 22:16 -0500
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    Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 23:58 -0500
  Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 20:08 +0200
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        Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 21:43 -0500
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            Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 00:38 -0500
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                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 13:19 -0700
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 13:21 -0700
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 15:30 -0500
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                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 15:52 -0500
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                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 16:27 -0500
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              Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-20 10:10 +0200
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                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-21 00:14 +0200
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 17:23 -0500
          Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of         this? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-20 18:59 -0400
            Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 18:07 -0500
              Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of         this? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-20 19:21 -0400
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 18:27 -0500
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of         this? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-21 07:48 -0400
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 08:37 -0500
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 12:03 -0700
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 14:21 -0500
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                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of         this? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-21 17:55 -0400
                Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 17:09 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 15:18 -0700
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                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 18:07 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 16:54 -0700
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 19:05 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and         halt? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-21 21:31 -0400
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 20:43 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and         halt? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-21 22:10 -0400
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 21:17 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and         halt? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-21 22:20 -0400
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-05-21 21:23 -0700
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 21:22 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 23:03 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-05-22 06:45 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 13:47 -0700
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 08:53 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and         halt? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-22 13:10 -0400
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 13:50 -0700
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and         halt? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-05-22 07:01 -0400
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 13:50 +0200
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 21:00 -0700
                Can D simulated by any H possibly reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 23:22 -0500
          Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 22:58 -0500
            Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-21 09:39 +0200
            Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-21 09:55 +0200
              Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 08:31 -0500
                Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 15:56 +0200
                Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 09:09 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 20:01 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:09 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 20:13 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:24 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 20:39 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:48 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-05-21 22:34 +0100
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 16:56 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-22 10:54 +0200
                D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 10:44 -0500
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-22 18:27 +0200
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation [good attempt] olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 15:04 -0500
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation [good attempt] wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-23 04:59 +0800
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation [good attempt] olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 16:26 -0500
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 16:56 -0500
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 15:36 -0700
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 17:52 -0500
                Re: D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 18:33 -0700
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 06:40 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 23:46 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 18:29 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 08:52 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 12:01 +0200
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 23:37 -0500
                Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 06:29 +0200
          Partial function types Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-05-21 22:15 -0700
            Re: Partial function types Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 23:27 -0700
  Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2024-05-20 15:14 +0200
    Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 10:10 -0500
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