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Re: Spiderman movies

From BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.acme.exploding.newsgroup
Subject Re: Spiderman movies
Date 2023-09-16 15:40 +0200
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On 09.09.2023 22.51, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:udfqru$3k0ht$2@dont-email.me: 
> 
>> On 06.09.2023 14.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:ud6iv6$1sfh1$2@dont-email.me: 
>>>
>>>> On 30.08.2023 14.42, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:uckvfl$29ksj$4@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24.08.2023 16.55, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:ubto0l$1gij7$2@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18.08.2023 14.51, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:ubig9m$3a3h7$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13.08.2023 23.28, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ub3mmb$gtkn$6@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09.08.2023 14.19, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uannn3$264rs$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01.08.2023 13.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ua39n5$2kvhc$5@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.07.2023 15.32, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u9ob6p$13p8s$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.07.2023 17.21, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u9beob$2o30p$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.07.2023 13.24, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u8rc2t$oq5$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12.07.2023 13.22, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u8hh5h$2jdqt$2@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2023 17.01, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Low cost snipping provided]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [How low?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Down to here]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's pretty low]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Especially considering the quality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workmanship] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don't sell yourself short]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I try]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's something at least]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [The hardest part is overcoming my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naturally unassuming character] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [It's good for your brane to work outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comfort zone] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's going to be quite a problem, since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no intention of leaving the zone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone needs to invent remote braining or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'll just add that to one of you litses]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Assuming I will get anything done is hardly a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viable strategy.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Yes, it seems that way]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [There's plenty of time... No hurry.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [You say that and then suddenly the doomsday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophet is right] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Well, I'm not doing all that work and have it all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to nothing because of a stupid doomsday...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That's a defeatist attitude]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Are you calling me a quitter...?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [If the shoe fits...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [What shoe? You need special shoes for doomsday, now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying a pair of shoes that I can only use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [That cult in the US liked Reeboks. You could try that]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Bah. All the 'some sports person wore them' brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneakers are stupid expensive - and also doesn't last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very well.] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I'm pretty sure sneakers are made to not last very well]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [And we all know why that is...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [*sigh* Capitalism?]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [By jove I think she's got it...]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Who,by jove, is jove?]
>>>>>>>>>> [A nickname for Jehova/Jahve, probably... you could ask Alan
>>>>>>>>>> Lerner if he was still alive.]
>>>>>>>>> [Huh? Not looking it up]
>>>>>>>> [Okay then]
>>>>>>> [So, how 'bout that local sports team?]
>>>>>> [It's the off-season now. I have no idea what they get up to ATM.]
>>>>> [Some fan you are...]
>>>> [The not-obsessed-with-the-private-life-of-sportspeople kind of fan,
>>>> you mean. Very true.]
>>> [Right. You have other things to do]
>> [Exactly. A water feature isn't going to make itself.]
> [How's it coming along?]
[It's still in the planning stages. I need to re-lay some pavement
stones that have been undermined by water and/or ants first. But I have
the stone and a largeish pile of dirt all ready for the wellspring part.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can get one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>> nylon >>>> jobs >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>> sell for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>> hallows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could probably get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole >>>>>> bunch >> of >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WalMart for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100. >>> I don't doubt it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>> would >>>> they go 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > your $800 handbag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> question? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People >>>>>> wear >>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff all the time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut won't people assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a cheap knock-off if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>> use >> it >>>>>> with > a nylon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wig. >> And >> then >> what's >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's ok. If they think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's >> a >>>>>>>>>> knock-off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then they won't steal it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also they will think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> handbag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > a cheap knock-off. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the chatter in the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> club >>>>>> bar... >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *gasp*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me feel like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>> an  interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are different kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm concerned this kind will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>> your > social standing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >> might >> even >> be > invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fewer cocktail parties... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *checks diary*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get invited to precisely 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>> Is it even possible to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invited 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>> -1  parties? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose technically it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > send out 'do not attend'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notices 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> those who are uniquely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwelcome. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> don't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happens much in cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >>>>> circles... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know more about it than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. I don't even like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocktails 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek cocktails. I guess mocktails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last time I had a 'proper' cocktail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > many years ago when a co-worker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >> I > decided to try everything on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> menu in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bar on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oslo ferry. It went as well as could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > expected... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Puked and passed out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither, but I suspect the work may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > been a tiny but sub-par the next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day... >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you wept openly when you got your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit card statement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that was the good part. The company
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked for didn't give out standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-diem amounts, so everything we had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipt for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got refunded... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have fond memories of submitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts for business. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hated having to save and collate and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and submit all those receipts every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month. I suspect it cost me quite a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money, too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT consultants are rich. so, pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much if it includes hotel bills and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly even plane tickets. Anyway it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle! I shouldn't have been required to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do accounting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you just hand the envelope of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receipts to an admin person? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. They had to be listed on the expenses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form along with the relevant account no. and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of each receipt, which also had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be handed in. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I think I had to put the total being submitted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the form and then attach the receipts]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a job that doesn't require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too... Not so much a job but at least I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to travel. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought you liked to travel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much after I became aware of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environmental impact of air-travel. In any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case it was more the being in different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places than the getting there that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyable. Although I would like to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding on one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those VeryBigFastness trains they have in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> France... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planes are taking off whether or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've booked a seat. I couldn't afford to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel for a long time. Now I find it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not so much the travel that's stressful,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it's all the planning and preparation. Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do that part. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The planning part is fine. It's the arriving at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airport at 5 am only to find out that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airline over-booked the flight etc, etc that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressful. I also don't fly well or sleep well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who even flies a 5 o'clock? That barbaric. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overbooking is not within your control, so have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some breakfast and look derisively at all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stressed people in the airport. The hotel bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has remedies for not sleeping well... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes me sleep worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying get plastered. One beer (alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content optional). The vitamin B will relax you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and possibly make you sleepy too... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alcohol makes my body hot (temperature-wise) and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't sleep. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-alcoholic beer doesn't have any alcohol in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't I just take the vitamin B then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's important to stay hydrated, especially when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flying. Also they don't dispense pharmaceuticals at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the departure hall bar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beer doesn't keep one hydrated. That's why after a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night on the town people wake up parched.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's still the alcohol what does that... And also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly the physical activity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who exercises after drinking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's the standing up, and the walking around, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> social interacting, and the dancing, and the mating rites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the walking home... It can be quite exhausting. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You must have seen it in movies and such.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember a movie with drunk people talking about how
>>>>>>>>>>> exhausting it is to walk home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>>> You were probably supposed to infer it from the exhaustedness
>>>>>>>>>> displayed by whichever actor was doing the walking home after
>>>>>>>>>> dancing. As they say in the storytelling business: 'show don't
>>>>>>>>>> tell'. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clearly, they are all bad actors.
>>>>>>>> Or maybe you just haven't seen any movies with drunk people
>>>>>>>> walking home after dancing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably. Name one.
>>>>>> Singing in the Rain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Were they drunk? It's been so long since I've it.
>>>> Let's say I remember and that they were. Why else would they be
>>>> singing in the rain.
>>>
>>> A valid point. I think people just liked tap dancing and stuff back 
>>> then.
>> Some of us still do. Especially in the rain. When drunk.
> Uh-huh...
I would show you but it isn't raining now... Also I'm not drunk.

>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I need another hint.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know any more that you do...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to check in hours before the flight. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we go to a conference, it's usually in Toronto or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we fly from Toronto so we have to get the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flight out of here in the morning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have trains in and out of Toronto. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know this for a fact. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you also know for a fact that the train takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3-4 hours to get there (vs. 50 minutes for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plane) and the train station is another hour away
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the airport. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should get some faster trains. Also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance to the airport is because train stations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are inside cities, often really close to where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be, so that time should be added to air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel time, as should the 'hours' you have to be at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the airport before departure. Given a reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number of departures, train journeys (even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-high-speed trains) will end-to-end mostly be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than air travel up to 400-500Km. Also you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the whole travel time available unbroken for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever (even work if so inclined). And more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leg-room. And usually a table big enough for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. On most trains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, it's a moot issue.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of staff shortages, flights are often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled now at the last minute. It's not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem at if I'm at the local airport, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get home, it's a huge problem. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no recent data, but most European airlines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [used to] hand out cash and/or vouchers for meals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hotel stays in those cases. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airlines are doing everything in their power to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight that. Since covid, they have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short-staffed and therefore frequently cancel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flights at the last minute. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should probably join EU... they have rules for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have rules about it. As you well know, for every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule there are exceptions. The airlines always weasel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a loophole. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-
>>>>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile some of the airlines around here were close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to bankruptcy because of all the covid disruption....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. That happened here as well. Air Canada wailed on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government who gave them money to stay afloat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during covid. They used the money to buy back their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stock and whined for more money. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smells like fraud... Is Air Canada (partly) state owned?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government got a small percentage of shares
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as part of the covid bailout package.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before that it was 100% private.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also: call it work-hours and take it back as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flex-time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That only works if the travel is for work purposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which it isn't anymore because they had MS Teams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed on all our laptops. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case there is also the relative cost to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider... Air travel should logically be much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive than train. And if ever an equitable CO2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge is implemented it will be. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer attending virtually at any rate. My internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could randomly disconnect during boring meetings or I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can play Candy Crush. Also, if my camera is off, no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one can see me rolling my eyes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that... But you can only play Candy Crush
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the sound off, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always do. The music is annoying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's meant to keep you awake... And your surroundings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that you play the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I made the right choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want the other people in the zoom-call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, yes... It would be a power-move if you turned the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound on when someone starts babbling about something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant (not that that ever happens at meetings).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Never happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> People also never circle back to something that discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 minutes ago and settled. I leave my body a lot at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that's when someone suggests something out of the blue
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's going to cause you a lot of headache and needless
>>>>>>>>>>>> work... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or the whole meeting was scheduled so that someone could ask
>>>>>>>>>>> me to do something that will be a headache and cause me a lot
>>>>>>>>>>> of needless work in front of my supervisor. As if that would
>>>>>>>>>>> make me do it. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In that case maybe you should be unavailable for that meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No! They need to be told No!
>>>>>>>>> If I'm not there my supervisor will volunteer me.
>>>>>>>> Well that's easy enough solved. Just tell your supervisor 'No'.
>>>>>>>> Maybe write them a post-it note if they have trouble with aural
>>>>>>>> retention. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is with hybrid work, you don't see people IRL much
>>>>>>> anymore. Also, we don't have assigned desks on which to stick
>>>>>>> post-it notes. 
>>>>>> Well stick it on his computer, then. Or send them a tik-chat or a
>>>>>> whatsthat or whatever... Email is still a thing too.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sure. Email. Then he will have a record of it.
>>>>> Very wise.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. They he can't later claim he didn't know about the no.
>>>>
>>> Oh sure he could.
>>> But I have proof!
>>
>> He can't *credibly* claim he didn't know about the no.
>>
> Yes! Because I have proof!

So problem solved. You can skip the meeting...

-- 
BeH

" We are trapped by language to such a degree that every attempt to
formulate insight is a play on words." - Niels Bohr

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  Re: Spiderman movies BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-06-11 00:28 +0200
    Re: Spiderman movies Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-06-12 20:15 +0000
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            Re: Spiderman movies Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-06-16 15:54 +0000
              Re: Spiderman movies BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 22:09 +0200
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