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Re: Why the Soviet computer failed

From jtmpreno <none@znet.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Why the Soviet computer failed
Date 2022-07-28 19:25 -0700
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On 7/28/2022 3:19 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2022-07-27, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> Found this <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnHdqPBrtH8>
>> interesting. Reasons, why the Soviet Union/Russia never caught up to the
>> US in the "computer race".
> 
> The Russkie talks big but frankly he's short on know-how. You can't expect
> a bunch of ignorant peons to understand a machine like some of our boys.
> 

That sounds like it came from Dr. Strangelove.

The reason is more likely to be that the Soviet Union was a centrally 
controlled economy.

The Russian economy is still centrally controlled by the oligarchs who 
run it for Putin.

We have our own oligarchs running our economy but there is still some 
room for innovation.

They let the little people invent new things, develop markets for them, 
and then either buy the small companies or use the small companies' 
patents and then sue the small companies into bankruptcy and then buy 
the patents for almost nothing.

That way the big companies don't have to invest in R&D. They spend their 
money on marketing.

We get more and more like Russia all the time. And eventually the 
Trumpers could be successful and we will have a dictatorship just like 
Russia.


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Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-27 17:25 -0400
  Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2022-07-27 19:02 -0700
  Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2022-07-28 15:51 +0100
  Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2022-07-28 22:19 +0000
    Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-28 17:52 -0700
      Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-29 01:05 -0400
      Re: Why the Soviet computer failed luserdroog <mijoryx@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-03 06:36 -0700
    Re: Why the Soviet computer failed jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2022-07-28 19:25 -0700
      Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2022-07-29 04:26 +0000
        Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2022-08-05 14:07 -0700
      Re: Why the Soviet computer failed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-29 15:52 +0000
        Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-29 13:04 -0400
          Re: Why the Soviet computer failed maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-07-29 18:14 +0000
          Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-29 19:42 -0400
          Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2022-07-30 00:14 +0000
            Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2022-08-05 14:31 -0700
              Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Anonymous Reactionary <anonymous@internet.everywhere> - 2022-08-15 02:59 +0000
          Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-30 08:30 -0400
            Re: Why the Soviet computer failed maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-07-30 18:42 +0000
              Re: Why the Soviet computer failed jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2022-07-30 13:13 -0700
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-07-30 20:29 +0000
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-30 22:16 +0100
              Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-30 22:46 -0400
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-07-31 13:00 -0500
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-31 17:20 -0400
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-07-31 18:25 -0500
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 09:42 -0500
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-08-01 22:48 -0400
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:21 -0500
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-08-02 19:18 -0400
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed phigan <phigan@bbs.penisys.cf> - 2022-08-03 03:03 +0000
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> - 2022-08-04 19:05 +0300
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-04 19:11 +0100
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-04 19:49 +0100
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-08-04 16:11 -0400
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        Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2022-07-30 00:04 +0000
        Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2022-08-05 14:09 -0700
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-19 00:21 +0100
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-19 08:56 +0100
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-19 09:28 +0000
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-08-20 12:17 -0400
                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-20 17:41 +0100
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                Re: Why the Soviet computer failed maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-20 21:00 +0000
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