Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-)

From	Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-)
Date	2021-12-01 14:32 -0600
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On 11/30/2021 11:31 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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Attribute of Harmony (and Conformity):

Harmony, for the reason that CH have a few shortcomings compared to MH, 
has always been needed more intensely by CH than the MH. This attribute 
is the heart of CH' Group-Thinking function of their ACOB.

The reasons are simple to see. In his mind a CH is constantly being 
judged by others and the authorities, subjected to a set of laws, 
dogmas, and superstitions. So he never dares to even think about 
thinking of something or doing something or saying something or being 
someone that bears his name on it right there naked and exposed in front 
of everybody, without knowing in advance that others and the authorities 
approve of it. That's what prevents him from even thinking in that 
manner. Let alone acting.

But what happened? What aspects of his behavior changed since he was an 
infant? Obviously as an infant he had everything at his disposal to 
think and observe and deduce and experiment and learn all by himself, 
and he sure did it! Where did that behavior go? That objectivity with 
absolutely no regard to authority and "others", how did it disappear in 
him? ..

I have no answer for it other than CH being an earlier form of human, 
where that process of losing those features always take place in them 
later in life.

And in the absence of that lost behavior, intense need for harmony with 
fellow humans will have to set in to fill the void.

MH keeps on to be that same infant with all those features in them 
throughout their lives! And knowing how CH are as far as their 
conformity with the rest is concerned, MH has even found it easy to 
trick the CH into doing just what MH wants (as mentioned under 
Predictability attribute).

Therefore conformity by itself, is something that's _desired_ among CH, 
but is done as a contemptible act by MH that's _tolerated_ only for 
other ends in mind; unless of course what the authority and others say 
happen to be just what he individually believe to be correct. This is 
two totally different behaviors that's seen in CH and MH. Indeed we 
became Modern Human by becoming self-centered and leaving group-centered 
behavior behind.

The only time MH resorts to conformity for the sake of conformity itself 
is when he is surrounded by CH. Just like the situation an Asperger 
human has with present modern human around him. He has to fool modern 
human by his conformity to their norms of behavior in the presence of 
others.

Harmony and Conformity are of course two different attributes. But I 
combined them into one attribute here because for CH the difference 
between the two fades away and for MH both are lacking and only are 
resorted to in similar situations: where other totally unrelated ends 
are being sought.

As a matter of fact one of the activities under Patience (Activity 12) 
is the practice of Conformity when target audience for the MH are the 
CH, not the MH, and the full-powered version of your idea is just 
unfathomable for those CH. So MH deliberately _downgrades_ his own idea 
to conform. Didn't we modify down Mithraism when we introduced 
"Christianity" in border areas? Such conformity as I mentioned above are 
needed when other unrelated schemes are being sought by MH.

Now back to attribute of Patience and adding a couple of more activities 
that I just remembered I had employed in the past myself.

Activity 13: Test it before launch

You don't have to wait until your idea or solution or scheme etc is 
perfect before launching it. As a matter of fact it can never get 
perfect without testing it at least once, and oftentimes many times. 
This is done while Patience is underway.

It is impossible for MH to predict everything that pertains his idea. A 
lot of hidden facts surface when you test your idea. In 1905, as I 
mentioned somewhere in this blog, the move to bring down Russian Empire 
was tested by Iran in the overlap areas Iran had with Russia in those 
years (Caucasia) . Scores of hidden facts surfaced as a result and every 
one of them were utilized later in months leading to 1917 collapse of 
that empire.

Ideas, generally, never get close enough to reality if they're not 
tested. This is just a fact that comes with the territory in any complex 
system one is studying. Even in much less complex ones! Take chess for 
instance. You can almost never be 100% sure, in the opening and the 
middle game in chess, whether your idea 5 or six moves in advance will 
actually work or not. No matter how good you are, your opponent might 
surprise the hell out of you before your goal is reached. Only in end 
game you can have that 100% certainty, when complexity has dramatically 
reduced and the game is not considered a "complex system" anymore.

So testing must be done, hence its coming as this activity under Patience.

I've seen people here and here, MH people, who do everything needed to 
make their ideas come to fruition except this activity 13! They never 
test them, thinking the time is not right for them. I think it is 
definitely a mistake. Cause it'll cause you to let your life slip away 
without doing the stuff you really want to do. I've seen that among 
friends and even relatives of mine. You just have to begin doing it 
_before_ it is perfect so you could get the chance to throw yourself on 
best course of action from that point on.

How can a music band become a great band if they wait until they create 
great music before hitting the road?? Look at every one of the 
successful ones. They all started performing live as nobodies, playing 
other bands' music or some of their earlier crap music. Only by doing 
that they found the right courses in their journeys.

Also sometimes you can test your idea to discover where you were right 
and where an arrogant fool. Cause undue arrogance blinds you (U.S. 
foreign policy!). This is the subject that I'll write about under 
attribute of Arrogance (and Humility). That's for later.

Off to walking :)

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