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Re: Any good introductions for Kermit?

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Hello,

I seem to have picked the right day to look in on this group, which I do
irregularly.

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On 2025-04-23, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've stumbled accross a suggestion that Kermit can be good for file transfers.
>
> https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2019-01-31-kermit.html
>
> This works well, if you SSH within kermit, and I've tried it
> sucessfully.  But there is a way, supposedly, to run kermit as a
> 'server'.

Yes, it's called IKSD.  It's fun to play around with, but lacks modern TLS and
such.

>
> I've followed the instructions here
> https://www.complete.org/how-to-run-an-internet-kermit-server/
>
> To start a server, which works.  Sort of, I can login as anonymous, but get
> ?Access to system disabled
> when I try any commands.
>
> The same happens when trying "the last kermit server"
> https://www.complete.org/try-the-last-internet-kermit-server/

I run that server, and tried it just now.

I tried dir, cd, get, pwd, and so forth.  They all worked.  File downloads
worked (note, you use the SEND, not GET, to do these because you're sending
commands to the remote kermit).

Things like ls, which map directly to local programs, won't work.  Run "help ls"
and "help dir" to note the difference between them.  dir is a kermit built-in;
ls is a call to an external program.

> I'm doing this purely out of interest, its not imperitave that it get it
> up and running.  I'm just looking for some good introductory
> documentation where I can begin to troubleshot this, and perhaps figure
> out how to get PAM authentication and/or TLS working.

https://www.complete.org/how-to-run-an-internet-kermit-server/ will link you to
the IKSD documentation that exists.  It was always a bit obscure so there's
nothing great out there.

I wouldn't bother trying to get TLS working; kermit's TLS is from an earlier era
and doesn't really support modern TLS.  You could put a TLS proxy in front of it
(eg, stunnel).

There are some good Kermit books out there, which you can find used on various
places.  There's a PDF at https://www.kermitproject.org/ck90.html , but also
check out https://www.kermitproject.org/booksonline.html for more.

- John

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Any good introductions for Kermit? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-23 12:14 +0000
  Re: Any good introductions for Kermit? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2025-04-23 13:06 +0000
    Re: Any good introductions for Kermit? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-24 14:09 +0000
      Re: Any good introductions for Kermit? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2025-04-25 17:14 +0000
  Re: Any good introductions for Kermit? David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-04-24 13:50 +1200
    Re: Any good introductions for Kermit? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-24 14:30 +0000
      Re: Any good introductions for Kermit? David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-04-25 13:07 +1200

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