Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure

From	DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure
Date	2020-04-16 11:20 +0000
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Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote in
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> On 15/04/2020 05:06 pm, Bud Frede wrote:
>> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> writes:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:44:25 -0000 (UTC)
>>> mGhost <mGhost@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you mean that Linux is written
>>>> from begining to end as an operating system that behaves like
>>>> Unix, but, has it's own kernel and utilities, userland?
>>>
>>> To my understanding, that is exactly correct.
>> 
>> Linux has its own kernel (Linux _is_ the kernel). There are also
>> some utilities that are only used by Linux distros. (Systemd is
>> an example, since it depends on cgroups, which only exist in the
>> Linux kernel AFAIK.)
>> 
>> The userland is not really "Linux's own." There's a lot of code
>> from various projects in a Linux distro's userland. This is why
>> some people refer to GNU/Linux, although even that excludes a lot
>> of things that many would consider to be an essential part of a
>> Linux distro. 
>> 
>> I wish we had a name for the whole thing that wasn't tied to any
>> one part. I propose we call it "George." I use George Mint MATE.
>> Then there's RHEG - Red Hat Enterprise George. :-)
>> 
>> alt.os.george and comp.os.george.misc will be some of the new
>> newsgroups.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Is George not the OS for ICL 1900/2900 series (and others, maybe)?
> 
> 

  What machine is that?  I mean brand, name, country, etc. (I was 
going to look a few things up)

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Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-12 10:35 -0400
  Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-13 02:22 +0000
    Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-12 22:50 -0600
      Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 09:41 +0100
        Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-04-13 07:51 -0500
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-13 11:45 -0600
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2020-04-13 14:11 -0500
        Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure mGhost <mGhost@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 15:50 +0000
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 18:21 +0100
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure mGhost <mGhost@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 17:44 +0000
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 20:40 +0100
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2020-04-13 22:56 -0500
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-15 12:06 -0400
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-15 11:36 -0500
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2020-04-16 11:22 +0100
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 11:20 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-04-16 09:08 -0400
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 14:50 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-04-16 13:49 -0400
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-16 13:16 -0500
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 20:56 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-04-17 01:43 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-04-16 15:27 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-18 14:56 -0400
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure felix@palmen-it.de (Felix Palmen) - 2020-04-16 17:44 +0200
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 16:26 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-04-16 12:37 -0400
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-04-13 14:29 -0400
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-04-14 08:18 +0000
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:50 +0100
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-04-15 09:59 +0000
    Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 09:39 +0100
    Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 19:44 -0400
      Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-14 00:16 +0000
        Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 03:39 +0100
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-13 21:59 -0600
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-14 11:24 +0000
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:35 +0100
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-13 22:04 -0600
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:47 +0100
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-14 14:15 +0100
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 15:05 +0100
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-15 11:43 -0400
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-16 13:31 +0100
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-14 13:09 -0600
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-04-14 12:20 -0700
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-14 05:47 +0000
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:48 +0100
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-14 21:10 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 23:54 +0100
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-15 01:06 +0000
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-15 13:39 +0100
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-04-14 08:40 +0000
          Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2020-04-14 17:57 -0700
            Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-15 01:11 +0000
              Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2020-04-15 11:30 +0200
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-15 11:55 -0400
                Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 00:38 +0000

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