Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS
Date	2018-04-28 10:18 +1200
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On 2018-04-27 21:52:59 +0000, Your Name said:

> On 2018-04-27 07:48:26 +0000, Alan Baker said:
> 
>> On 2018-04-27 12:39 AM, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-27 07:32:08 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>> 
>>>> On 2018-04-26 11:44 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-04-27 01:44:38 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>>>>> On 2018-04-26 6:25 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-04-26 21:47:43 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>>>>>>> On 2018-04-26 2:44 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> At least that's true for the measely 580 people they bothered to 
>>>>>>>>> survey, making the whole thing a complete waste of time and money, and 
>>>>>>>>> the "results" simply a load of bollocks reported as fact, as always 
>>>>>>>>> with silly "surveys" / "polls" / "studies".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So you have to poll every single person on the planet to reach any 
>>>>>>>> conclusions, do you?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You do if you want remotely *accurate* conclusions attributable to 
>>>>>>> everyone ... although even then you'll get people who will lie.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, actually.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Surveying less than 600 people and then claiming the results actually 
>>>>>>> mean anything for everyone is moronically silly. Even ignoring that, 
>>>>>>> the survey was highly biased anyway since it ignores billions of people 
>>>>>>> in China and Africa who are "employees" and don't get any choice at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But it was a survey precisely ABOUT choice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep, the choice of less than 600 people they bothered to ask ... 
>>>>> nothing more, nothing less.
>>>> 
>>>> So you admit your comments about people with no choice were irrelevant...
>>> 
>>> No, what I said was the survey proved "72% of the 580 people they 
>>> bothered to ask perfer Macs" ... it does not remotely show that "72% of 
>>> employees prefer Macs".
>> 
>> No. What the survey said was:
>> 
>> "72 percent of employees who are offered the choice between Mac and PC 
>> chose Mac"
>> 
>> The fact that they asked 580 people what the preferences were within 
>> their respective organizations doesn't equate to "72% of the 580 people"
> 
> Statistically manipulating the *real* results by multiplying or using 
> percentages does *NOT* make it an actual fact for everyone and is not 
> even remotely accurate reporting. It's simply a guesstimate or 
> probability at best.
> 
> The *real* results of the survey *are* "72% of the 580 people we 
> bothered to ask perfer Macs" ... nothing more, nothing less.

Here's how you *properly* report a survey's results ...

    "The gist: The typical PC gamer isn't that typical.
     Sure, 48 percent of the respondents were in their
     20s or 30s, for instance, ..."

Note the "of respondents" ... they aren't trying to pretend the survey 
results are for everyone on the planet, only those actually asked in 
the survey!

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[NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-27 09:44 +1200
  Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2018-04-26 14:47 -0700
    Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-27 13:25 +1200
      Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2018-04-26 18:44 -0700
        Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-27 18:44 +1200
          Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2018-04-27 00:32 -0700
            Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-27 19:39 +1200
              Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2018-04-27 00:48 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-28 09:52 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-28 10:18 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-04-28 21:48 +0000
      Re: [NEWS] 72% employees choose Mac, 75% choose iOS gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-04-26 19:08 -0700
  Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-04-26 17:49 -0400
  Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-26 17:56 -0400
    Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-04-26 19:02 -0700
      Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-04-27 18:46 +1200
        Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-27 08:42 -0400
          Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-04-27 17:42 +0000
        Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-04-27 09:55 -0400
          Re: [NEWS] 72% employes choose Mac, 75% choose iOS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-27 09:58 -0400

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