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Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit?

From An Old Friend <an.old@friend.com.invalid>
Subject Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit?
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:20:52 -0400, flatfish+++ chiseled
156yzd68cw4ms$.wq82yqu0nyv2.dlg@40tude.net in stone using Trajan:

> On 25 Apr 2011 05:54:27 +0100, An Old Friend wrote:
> 
> 
>> The drum samples aren't in some linux-unreadable audio format, are
>> they? If they're WAV or AIFF files, it shouldn't be any more of a
>> hassle than it would be with other DAWs.
> 
> It's not the samples, it's the software that analyzes the drummer's hit
> points and then automatically inserts the samples, in time, pitch and
> everything else.
> 
> There is a lot more to it.

Flatfish, I can't read your mind. What you asked was:

> Say the drummer was off a little can you replace his performance with
> some well recorded drum samples?

I know about SoundReplacer and TL Drum Rehab, and have seen them in 
action. And honestly, I was disappointed with the results. There was a 
lot of tweaking and fiddling to get things just right. It wasn't as 
simple as you make it sound, unless you want a sloppy sound.

> See, this is exactly what I was talking about with portable devices
> being mounted as storage under Linux vs the software Windows users can
> use to sync etc.
> 
> It's completely different and not comparable.
> 

Yet I'm able to sync my iPhone using Rhythmbox without problems.

>>> How about mixing and mastering the recording? What kind of tools does
>>> Linux offer compared to Protools or really Windows/OSX DAW software in
>>> general?
>>> 
>>> Linux isn't even in the same ball park and THAT is the problem.
>> 
>> I agree the tools are different. I'm exploring them now, but haven't
>> made a final verdict. I come from using Logic, and I'm aware of the
>> things you're talking about.
> 
> Logic has improved a lot in recent years. It's probably the #2 program
> in many studios after Protools. Logic is much, much better for MIDI and
> VSTi.

I see Nuendo more than Logic. But that's my experience. I see ProTools 
more than both combined.

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  Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 21:54 -0400
    Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? An Old Friend <an.old@friend.com.invalid> - 2011-04-25 04:52 +0100
      Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 23:19 -0400
        Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? An Old Friend <an.old@friend.com.invalid> - 2011-04-25 05:54 +0100
          Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-25 00:20 -0400
            Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? An Old Friend <an.old@friend.com.invalid> - 2011-04-25 11:11 +0100
              Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-25 08:19 -0400
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          Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? "caged steel" <CS@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 10:24 -0400
  Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 22:21 -0400
    Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 22:34 -0400
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      Re: Why are so many "advocates" PROVEN to be lying pieces of shit? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 11:13 -0400
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