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| From | "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech |
| Subject | Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. |
| Date | 2017-04-27 20:57 +0100 |
| Organization | ~ |
| Message-ID | <op.yzddqcs3js98qf@red.lan> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <D52680EB.A1F3D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <op.yzcwtzq0js98qf@red.lan> <D52769CF.A2003%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <op.yzc9p9dxjs98qf@red.lan> <D5278C08.A2060%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:52:40 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 4/27/17, 11:31 AM, in article op.yzc9p9dxjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson > Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote: > > ... >>>>> It is oh so hard to find! >>>>> >>>>> <http://youtu.be/K2DP-eAyvxQ> >>>>> >>>>> Also MacTracker has lots of info. >>>> >>>> That gives the Ghz, not the model of i5. There are many many i5s. >>> >>> Let's see: >>> >>> The first one is listed as a Dual Core i5 at 1.6 GHz using HD Graphics 6000. >>> As far as I know that limits it to ONLY the Core i5-5250U. >>> >>> The second one is listed as a Quad Core i5 at 2.8 GHz using Intel Iris Pro >>> Graphics 6200. As far as I know that limits it to ONLY the Core i5-5575R. >>> >>> The third one is listed as a Quad Core i5 at 3.1 GHz using Intel Iris Pro >>> Graphics 6200. This does leave open the Core i5-5675C and the Core i5-5675R, >>> but their primary difference is the socket. The other two use BGA so I think >>> it is same to assume Apple is using the Core i5-5675R. >>> >>> Apple gives all the actual specs but does not list the specific model... but >> >>> it is not hard to find if, for some unknown reason, it actually matters to >>> you to know not just what the computer you are getting has in it but what >>> name Intel has designated it. >> >> I have an i5-3570K in my 3 year old desktop. > > Mazel tov! > >> I know that the i5 range goes from about half that speed to about double that >> speed. Not giving the exact model of the i5 in the Imac specs is absurd. > > Given that they tell you the specs most would want, what is your concern? Do > you just want to know the number for your own level of comfort? So I know how powerful it is. It could be twice as fast as my desktop, or half as fast. That's a big range! It's like saying "this car has a 2 litre engine" - not enough information to tell how fast it is. >> Are Apple doing what they usually do and dumbing things down for their low >> intelligence market? Or perhaps they just like conning people by leaving >> things out and just writing he GHz. > > They give more than that, as I discuss, above. In fact, you have not > mentioned a spec they leave out that you care about, nor have you shown any > price comparison to back your claim of twice the price. > > Bottom line: you are looking for things to whine about and making things up > when you cannot find real issues. Fine. As long as we have that > understanding of what your game is I am likely to play along for a bit more. No, you're accepting a vague processor speed, then looking up a list of i5s to find which one it probably is. Apple need to simply state what processor is in it. Every single other computer manufacturer does so. I would guess they do it to avoid comparisons being possible. -- If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be "meetings."
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-26 23:24 +0100
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-26 18:29 -0400
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 00:28 +0100
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 18:35 -0700
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 14:51 +0100
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 09:07 -0700
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 19:33 +0100
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 11:58 -0700
Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 21:01 +0100
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 22:11 +0100
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-26 22:41 -0400
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 10:11 -0700
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 10:12 -0700
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 20:57 +0100
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 15:17 -0700
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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 10:08 -0700
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