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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:42:18 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/14/17, 10:23 AM, in article op.yyo3xahnjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:11:39 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/14/17, 8:02 AM, in article op.yyoxdqeljs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:26:16 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/10/2017 09:48 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>> My kids, 9 and 11, have at least parts of that memorized. More than I do.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was 9, many kids were concerned about Nixon becoming president. I
>>>>> was more interested in Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine. THAT is what
>>>>> I was thinking of when i got to school early
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of a 9 year old giving a shit about politics.
>>>
>>> My 9 year old watched at least part of most of the debates and has done a
>>> fail amount of research on Trump, Clinton, Sanders, and others. I have
>>> little doubt she knows more than many of the "adults" you see on Usenet. :)
>>
>> One of two things wrong there:
>> 1) She should be allowed to vote if she knows that much.
>
> I would not go quite that far (though many of age I think are not informed
> enough to give a "good" vote... but I would not deny it to them because of
> the can of worms that opens!)
>
>> 2) What's the point in her learning that if she can't vote?
>
> She is interested... and wants to know about her country. There are
> certainly LARGE holes in her knowledge when compared to even the average 18
> year old (or what I would hope an 18 year old would know on even a base
> level) but she enjoys reading biographies of scientists, politicians, etc.
> as well as just books on what life was like in the past or what it is like
> in other places. These are books at her grade level or maybe a bit above,
> but I am not going to suggest she is a child prodigy and is preparing her
> doctoral dissertation as she reads these! Nor are these the only things she
> reads... she is really into a couple of fantasy series as well... right now
> more into those than the other. That comes some from her getting interested
> in what her older sister likes, but also her own tastes. And I am fine with
> that, too.
>
> My eleven year old cares about politics as much as one would expect most
> eleven year olds too... not much at all (though she and her friends have
> surprised me with some of their discussions how they handle differences in
> political views). But she is the one who is FAR more into the fantasy novels
> and graphic novels of various sorts. I am completely fine with that, too...
> not pushing either of them to get "into" politics. As is common, they have
> adopted many of the views of their parents (my wife and I) but they also
> have places they disagree... and that is fine, too.

I agree with you that she probably knows more than most adults, so she should get to vote, as should every child.  It's their future too.  Ok, maybe make the voting age about 10.  A 3 year old will just draw a silly picture.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 16:02 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-14 08:59 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 17:02 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-14 10:11 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 18:23 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-14 10:42 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 19:01 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-14 11:13 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 19:33 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-14 12:01 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 20:31 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-14 13:32 -0500
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-14 19:44 +0100

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