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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

From	"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject	Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution
Date	2017-04-22 21:41 +0100
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Message-ID	<op.yy36fhcajs98qf@red.lan> (permalink)
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:08:46 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/22/17, 10:59 AM, in article op.yy3yw1wxjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:43:55 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/22/17, 10:19 AM, in article op.yy3w2fwmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sant-media.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cie.jpg>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing outside the CMYK line looks any different to anything inside it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the saturated reds sure do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then the diagram is wrong.  I can print vivid red on my printer.  I often
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> for bright text.
>>>>>
>>>>> Print. Hold to screen. Take a picture. Post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would love to see the results.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zizzde7j4xn87am/Red%20test.JPG?dl=0
>>>
>>> Thank you. With a low quality jpg it is hard to really compare them well,
>>> but just looking at the screen I would say the one on the right (the
>>> printout) has the red overblown. Surprisingly it has more red than the
>>> screen.
>>>
>>> Did you turn the brightness down on the monitor to try to have them match?
>>
>> No, it's set the way I always have it, about 3/4s of the way up.
>
> Fair enough.
>
>>> Most people keep their monitors brighter than that (though not all, my wife
>>> HATES bright monitors and keeps hers very dim).
>>
>> I used to do that with CRTs, I found them rather glaring.  But a bright LCD
>> doesn't annoy me much.
>
> For me it was the flicker on the old CRTs, especially if they were set to 60
> MHz.

You mean 60Hz.  I always used 90Hz, but I still didn't like them bright.  If I set a CRT and an LCD side by side to both be comfortable to work with, the same photo on both displays looked completely different.  The CRTs didn't seem to have a linear output, so the darker areas of the photo were not visible on the CRT.  If I made the photo look correct on the CRT by brightening it in Photoshop, it looked washed out on the LCD.

>> The lights are on in my room, which are fairly bright.  On a nice day with the
>> lights off they probably match.  If I carry the piece of paper around the
>> house and outside, the colour is completely different.  Just ask any woman
>> buying clothes or curtains and getting home to find the colour isn't the same
>> as in the shop.
>
> <http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/white-gold-dress-he
> res-science-5241292> OR <https://goo.gl/B5GoC0>

I never understood the problem.  I see exactly what photoshop sees - the lighter of the two colours is white with a blue tint.  It's about 110:110:130 RGB.  So not blue, but white with a little bit of blue.  There's no eyesight problem, just a cameraphone problem.

>> So anyway, you can never say that a printout is the same as a backlit display,
>> because it depends how much light is in the room when you look at the
>> printout.  Can you calibrate a room light?
>
> I am sure there are ways... but I know nothing of them. :)

Apparently Philips (I think) make an adjustable LED one, you can change the RGB value with a remote.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 00:21 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 19:36 -0400
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 01:13 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 20:17 -0400
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 01:42 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 20:54 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 02:27 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 21:49 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 14:48 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-21 20:38 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 23:41 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-21 20:48 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 23:58 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-21 21:40 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-22 10:22 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 13:25 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 18:33 -0400
                Colour printing etc (Was: Re: Apple told to warn ...) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-22 22:19 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-21 17:48 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 18:19 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 10:43 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 18:59 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 11:08 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 21:41 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-22 14:27 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 22:35 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-22 15:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 18:33 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 15:07 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 15:12 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 18:33 -0400

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