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Re: The only way

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The only way
Date 2017-04-01 21:57 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>>>How do two electrons follow the 
>>>same path around a sphere? 

>>Assumes facts not in evidence. "

>OK let's take this slowly- for Michael
>(no child left behind):

>1. Only 2 electrons can share an orbital.
>  (No others can go where they go)

Again, you are continuing to treat the electron as a little billiard ball
that "goes" places, as if being hit on a pool table.

The best way to think of the electron (in an orbital) is a STANDING WAVE.
Not a billiard ball.

>2. Electrons can go/be anywhere 
>   according to your model.

Wrong.  Knowing where they are and where they're going (except as an
approximation) violates the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

>Can you reconcile having no constraints on where
>electrons go with limiting orbitals to 2, Michael?

That question doesn't make sense in quantum mechanics.

Restrictions of the number of electrons in an orbital come from the fact
that no two fermions can be in the same state (have all the same quantum
numbers).  For an atom, there are four quantum numbers that describe the
possible states, n, l, m, s.  A particular suborbital will have a certain
value for each of n, l, m.  s can have one of only two values, +1/2 and
-1/2.  So, for a particular suborbital, two electrons will have the same
value of n, l, m.  One will have s +1/2, the other will have -1/2. They
can't both have the same s because it is not allowed for them to have the
same value for all four numbers.  You can't add a third electron because
the only values allowed are +1/2 and -1/2, a third one would have to
have the same as one of the other two and that just can't happen.

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                Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 07:09 -0700
                Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 11:46 -0700
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                Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:44 -0400
                Re: get out of the fryingpan! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 07:29 -0700
                Re: get out of the fryingpan! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 07:47 -0700
                Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:42 -0400
                Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:28 -0400
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  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:30 -0500
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              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:45 -0500
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              Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:46 -0700
          Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 15:10 +0000
        Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:10 -0700
        Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:42 -0700
      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:29 -0500
        Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:13 -0700
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          Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 14:58 +0000
        Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:18 -0700
          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:31 -0700
            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:46 -0500
            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 16:30 +0000
            Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:47 -0700
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            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:48 -0500
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                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:40 -0500
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:27 -0700
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 12:34 -0500
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:39 -0700
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 13:01 -0500
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                Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:50 -0700
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 13:02 -0500
                Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:03 -0700
                Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 14:04 -0700
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                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 17:19 -0500
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                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 18:13 -0500
                Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 19:21 -0400
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 16:31 -0700
                Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 17:38 -0700
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                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 09:31 -0500
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 07:48 -0700
                Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-29 15:38 +0000
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 09:10 -0700
                Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-29 19:09 +0000
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:08 -0500
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:09 -0500
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 13:42 -0700
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:57 -0500
                dimers don't do this noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 14:16 -0700
                Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-29 21:47 +0000
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