Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users
Date	2026-04-30 17:38 +0000
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 06:39:41 -0500, -hh wrote:

> I’m a bit perturbed by how my radar system for “lane keep assist” also
> has the slam on the brakes ‘feature’ too…but probably because it goes
> off occasionally.  Seems to be during congested local road where the car
> in front is turning off & braking hard - system doesn’t believe it’s
> going to be gone in another ~second.  Frustrating part is that this is
> active even when “lane assist” is off.

Toyota often installs subsystems even if they are not completely 
implemented. For example my 2007 didn't have a radio but it did have 
speakers and the wiring harness.

My current one beeps but doesn't apply the brakes if it thinks I'm closing 
too fast. It also displays the lane control icon but takes no action. It 
does not have remote entry but does have electric locks. I do find that 
useful.

It does have stability and traction control but Toyota finally realized 
there are situations where they should be disabled. That wasn't an option 
in the previous models. If you've ever tried to rock a car out of snow 
with traction control or drive more than 20 mph on dirt roads you realize 
how much both 'features' can suck.

I guess ABS is useful but I've only triggered it a few times in the past 
20 years. A couple of times I was playing to see what it would do.

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Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-21 21:41 +0000
  Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-21 18:53 -0400
    Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-22 00:59 +0000
      Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-21 21:26 -0400
      Re: Framework�s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a �MacBook Pro for Linux users� chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:10 -0500
        Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 16:56 -0700
          Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-26 11:37 -0500
            Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-26 19:13 -0700
              Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-27 06:56 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-27 17:50 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-27 15:02 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-27 16:52 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-27 19:54 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-04-28 00:12 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-28 07:10 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 09:34 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 06:27 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-28 18:47 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-28 15:21 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 06:39 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-30 17:38 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-05-01 01:55 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 07:22 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 08:56 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Anonymous <anonttymous@localhost.com> - 2026-05-01 13:46 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 10:47 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 16:22 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 14:24 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 17:21 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-05-01 22:30 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 15:48 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-01 19:38 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 17:44 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-01 20:55 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 18:52 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-02 07:28 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-02 08:24 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-05-02 12:11 -0600
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-02 13:12 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-05-02 14:35 -0600
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-02 13:52 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-05-03 14:28 -0600
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-03 14:45 -0700
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                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-03 21:56 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-05-04 07:34 -0600
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 09:36 -0700
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                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-05-05 18:56 -0600
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-05-05 18:55 -0600
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 18:18 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:02 -0500
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                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:30 -0500
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                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-02 20:06 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-02 20:02 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-04-28 14:53 +0000
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                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-28 15:24 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 06:44 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook  Pro for Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-05-01 01:57 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-28 18:51 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-27 16:57 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-28 06:34 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-28 07:05 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 13:13 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 13:53 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 08:09 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 09:07 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-29 13:16 -0700
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      Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 16:56 -0700
        Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 20:20 -0400
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        Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-27 01:18 +0000
          Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-27 07:22 +0000
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