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Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations)

From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Newsgroups alt.usage.english, rec.arts.books, rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations)
Date 2026-02-28 21:44 +0000
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In article <10nvj8e$3kmn3$3@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2/28/2026 12:44 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> writes:
>>> On 23/02/26 11:05, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> (I haven’t read the Burroughs story in question -- “Warlord Of
>>>> Mars”, is it? -- but this description
>>>> <https://barsoom.fandom.com/wiki/Atmosphere_Factory> is
>>>> illuminating.)
>>>>
>>>> That is certainly the kind of theme that is unique to SF -- the
>>>> current inhabitants of an exotic world have regressed from the
>>>> original civilization that long ago set up certain life-critical
>>>> systems, which have started failing, so it is up to our heroes to
>>>> fix them and save the entire world.
>>>>
>>>> Was Burroughs the first to think up this plot? Larry Niven certainly
>>>> reused the idea in his second Ringworld novel, “The Ringworld
>>>> Engineers”.
>>>
>>> Before Niven (but after Burroughs), that theme appeared in at least two
>>> well-known "multi-generation ship" novels that are probably familiar to
>>> most readers of this thread. I can't name them because of a temporary
>>> senior moment, but it will come back to me by tomorrow.
>> 
>> Heinlein.  _Universe_ (1941) and _Common Sense_ (1941), combined by
>> 1963 into _Orphans of the Sky_, and touched on in _Time Enough for Love_.
>
>
>To which we add 'Non-Stop' (aka 'Starship). Brian Aldiss, 1958
>
>That I knew, but also:
>
>Aniara Swedish epic poem, 1956 Harry Martinson
>

Van Vogt's "Empire Of The Atom" stories would certainly fit.

And, hmm, "The Spectre General" would be a classic case.
-- 
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Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 02:49 +0000
  Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 06:51 -0500
    Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-22 11:05 -0500
      Re: The Martian Chronicles Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-02-23 13:36 +0000
      Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-24 02:05 +0000
        Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-02-24 06:42 +0200
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-02-24 08:57 +0100
            Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 12:40 +0100
              Re: The Martian Chronicles Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-24 08:30 -0800
              Re: The Martian Chronicles Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-02-25 09:19 +1300
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-25 10:17 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-02-26 09:28 +1300
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-25 22:17 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 22:38 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-02-26 16:02 +1300
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 03:21 +0000
              Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-25 11:46 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-25 17:31 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-25 21:53 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2026-02-27 00:35 +1100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-26 16:24 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-01 12:30 +1100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-01 02:28 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 22:35 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-26 11:21 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-27 00:33 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 17:10 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-26 20:26 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-27 08:24 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-27 08:39 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-02-27 10:11 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-27 18:26 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-27 21:20 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-02-27 20:11 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-02-28 04:03 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-27 21:48 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-27 23:57 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 23:23 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-02-27 21:27 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-28 05:46 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 15:36 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-28 11:57 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-01 12:00 +1300
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-01 22:30 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-02 10:33 +1100
                Japan and Religion Re: The Martian Chronicles Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-01 21:11 -0800
                Re: Japan and Religion Re: The Martian Chronicles Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-03 07:18 +0200
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 20:07 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-02 12:52 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 11:30 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-02 09:02 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-03-02 19:21 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-27 21:48 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-02-27 19:52 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-27 21:48 +0100
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-25 13:58 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-02-26 04:07 +0200
        Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 11:43 -0500
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-24 17:41 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 16:54 -0500
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-25 00:27 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-02-24 18:30 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-02-24 20:04 +0000
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-24 14:24 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-02-24 22:45 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-02-24 21:50 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 23:13 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 16:57 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 03:36 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-02-25 11:58 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-02-25 15:04 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 22:03 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-02-26 03:22 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-25 22:09 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-26 08:01 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 11:52 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-02-26 17:42 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-25 14:03 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-25 22:11 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-26 08:02 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-02-27 07:05 +0200
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-02-27 06:12 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-27 09:48 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-02-28 01:09 +0200
                Re: The Martian Chronicles liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-27 09:25 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-27 14:22 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-28 08:30 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-02-26 20:16 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 21:09 +0100
          Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 20:34 +0100
          Re: The Martian Chronicles liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-24 22:37 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicles Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-02-25 11:38 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 03:30 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 22:12 -0500
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-02-25 06:47 +0200
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-26 09:29 +0000
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-26 08:07 -0800
    Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-23 00:05 +0000
      Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-23 09:03 -0800
      Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 10:55 -0800
        Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 16:32 -0600
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-02-25 22:39 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 22:39 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-02-25 17:22 -0800
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 19:45 -0600
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-02-25 18:11 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 11:40 -0500
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 11:20 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-26 16:43 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-27 08:30 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-26 20:21 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 17:24 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 16:35 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-27 10:43 +0100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 11:21 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-27 21:48 +0100
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-26 08:11 -0800
              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-02-26 09:41 -0800
      Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-02-28 22:50 +1100
        Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-28 17:44 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 15:30 -0500
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-02-28 21:44 +0000
            Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2026-02-28 21:44 -0800
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 08:45 -0800
        Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-28 22:20 +0000
          Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-02-28 20:28 -0800
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              Re: The Starlost (was Re: The Martian Chronicles) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-01 17:13 +1100
                Re: The Starlost (was Re: The Martian Chronicles) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-01 07:34 +0000
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              Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-01 08:54 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 12:46 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-01 22:01 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-03-01 15:59 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 20:12 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 22:12 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-03-02 10:01 +0000
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                Re: The Martian Chronicles kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-03-03 09:01 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 07:44 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-02 08:44 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-01 19:49 +0000
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                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-02 10:41 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-02 08:57 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-02 08:54 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-02 10:42 +1100
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-02 08:56 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-02 08:50 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 13:18 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 14:39 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-02 16:15 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-02 23:50 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-02 12:35 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 16:31 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 22:13 -0500
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-03 08:24 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-03 13:51 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-04 08:16 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-04 11:26 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-05 08:31 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 14:05 -0600
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:19 -0800
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2026-03-01 19:44 +0000
                Re: The Martian Chronicles (was Re: SF: Book recommendations) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-01 21:59 +0000
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