Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile"

From	🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.fortran, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile"
Date	2026-02-02 21:02 +0100
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W dniu 24.01.2026 o 04:35, Lynn McGuire pisze:
> One of my programmers has been working on converting our Windows user 
> interface, written in 450,000 lines of C++, from Ascii to Unicode for 
> two years now.  It was a one year project to start and his latest 
> estimate is another year to complete.

I think that this task should be named "rewrite". But I recommended 
"clean up" instead. In the case "clean up" you have great opportunity to 
make your app far better than previous. Modern industry approach, is 
modularity. This is prove in many essential industry branch, and 
especially in IIww years.

You can make your app "modular", by simply respect following rules:
1. Split your code in to 3 parts:
1) Business Logic classes;
2) Tool classes;
3) Window and widget classes.
This is my "programming pattern" which I call TLW "tools-logics-window" 
pattern, and it replace more specialised MVC "model-view-controler" pattern.

2. Split your code in to few static libs.
NOTE: Do not push any "business logic" in to your libs. Libs must be 
acted only as "tools". All "business logic" should remain in your core app.
NOTE: When you have static libs, then you can develop your libs and 
prog. simultaneously, because they will not interfere with other 
projects (other projects can work normally and can be upgraded later).

3. Split your code in to many dynamically loaded plug-ins.
NOTE 1: Create your plug-ins only in 3 cases:
1) for file type and network protocol formats (for tool classes);
2) for new algorithms (for logic classes);
3) for new widgets (for windows classes).
Note 2: In many cases one plug-in provide together new widget and new 
algorithm;

4. Make your libs and plug-in rest code independent as far as possible 
and make them to use minimal set of 3rd party libs dependencies.
NOTE: This mean that your libs and plug-ins (for tools and logic 
classes) should not be depended of GUI libs, nor any platform specific 
libs. In order to do this all build in types and used classes should be 
renamed. Then, if necessary, renamed type can be easily expanded by make 
it normal class (with earlier renamed class as a parent).

NOTE: Above I invent and covered in my monograph under title "Arch. 
Prog. Nieuprzywilejowanych" (in eng.: "Architecture of Unprivileged 
Programs"). I publish it in dec. 2024, on my WWW site under URL:

<https://energokod.gda.pl/monografie/Arch.%20Prog.%20Nieuprzywilejowanych.pdf>

One more hint: Buy great and thin Stroustrup book "A Tour of C++ (C++ 
In-Depth Series" - it is all about basic C++ concepts but focused on 
C++20. Then consider what "C++ modern parts" are worth to apply for your 
project.

-- 
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,  Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, EU 🇪🇺;
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  Re: "Internationalis(z)ing Code - Computerphile" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-24 04:46 +0000
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