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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: OT: Israel and Palestine |
| Date | 2025-10-22 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlsssvF3gmnU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 23:09:14 +1100, Daniel70 wrote: > On 21/10/2025 9:06 pm, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2025-10-18, Daniel70 wrote: >> >>> On 14/10/2025 9:24 pm, Nuno Silva wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-14, Pancho wrote: >> [...] >>>>> I don't think a two-state solution was ever agreed. >>>> >>>> It has been, at least once by the two parties: >>>> >>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/ Bill_Clinton%2C_Yitzhak_Rabin%2C_Yasser_Arafat_at_the_White_House_1993-09-13.jpg >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Accords >>>> >>>> Besides this, I think the creation of what became the State of Israel >>>> arised out of the decision to foster a two-state solution at the UN >>>> level. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine >>> >> [...] >>> Not having read too deeply on this topic, "The Two State Solution" has >>> always intrigued me. >>> >>> When talking "Two State" are we meaning ... >>> >>> 1. Israel as one state and The Rest (Palestine, West Bank and Golan >>> Heights (which doesn't seem to be disgussed too much, now-a-days) as >>> one "state") or >> >> AFAIK this, although as noted in other replies the Golan Heights are a >> separate matter. >> >>> 2. Israel as one state and the Two Palestine States (Palestine and >>> West Bank (again no mention of Golan Heights)) being two seperate Arab >>> States. >>> >>> Or something totally different. >>> >>> How can you have One State spread over two/three seperate Geographical >>> areas?? >> >> See e.g. Russia [1] and the United States of America [2] :-) >> >> [1] https://enwp.org/Kaliningrad_Oblast > > Was not aware of that one.I would have thought when all the other bits > of USSR broke away, this one would have also gone Independant .... or > been subsumed into one or other of the 'breakaway' counties. That would be a hard sell for Russia. It's their only ice free Baltic port and home of the Baltic fleet. For all its land mass Russia is short on useful sea ports, hence the sensitivity about the Black Sea ports in the Crimea. After WWI when Poland was recreated and given a corridor to Danzig it isolated East Prussia in a similar way. Germany wanted to build a highway across the corridor for land access, no entrances or exits in Polish territory. Poland refused and it was off to the races. Alaska has a similar problem. During peak covid Canada closed the border and there is no land route from the lower 48 to Alaska.
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Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-18 23:59 +1100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-18 17:39 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:34 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:47 +0200
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:17 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:08 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:26 +0100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:48 +0200
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:25 +0100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-19 23:35 +1100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0200
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:20 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:23 +0100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-19 23:48 +1100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 19:36 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:14 +0100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-20 23:40 +1100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:10 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 11:06 +0100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-22 23:09 +1100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:57 +0100
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:33 +0000
Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:25 +0000
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