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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.vms |
| Subject | Re: [OT] PDP-11 & RA82 |
| Date | 2025-12-01 18:56 -0500 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <mddh5u9oixj.fsf@panix5.panix.com> (permalink) |
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=?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes:
> On 12/1/2025 1:02 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-29, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>> Why would anyone want one of these drives? It sure isn't for storage capacity.
>>>> There are many things from the past, but show me anyone who has any real use for
>>>> them. I mean, I do not collect wheels, covered wagons, model T Fords, and
>>>> certainly not an RA82 drive.
>>> Because some people care about how we got to where we are today.
>>> Around Europe, there are carefully preserved and some maintained
>>> historical train locomotives that are many decades old. Some are
>>> over a century old.
>> The RA81 and RA82 are not Model T Fords. They are Maxwells, prone to
>> breaking down and leaving people stranded in the middle of the road.
>> When we were running many of them, we had a DEC FE who was on site a
>> couple days a week replacing heads, and without that support I would
>> not want to be running them.
>> There are many devices that should be preserved in working condition so that
>> new generations should see how they worked when they were new and experience
>> them working. The RA81 should be left in the rack broken, so that new
>> generations can see how they were when they were new.
> RA81's and RA82's on a 8650.
> The RA82's were okay, but the RA81's crashed frequently. DEC field
> service knew that site very well.
> I have been told here that there were a manufacturing problem with
> RA81's and when the problem got fixed they stopped crashing all the
> time.
You've got the RA81 and RA82 backwards. We had RA81s on a CI cluster at
Stanford, and they were pretty solid.
RA82s were not available for the 36 bit systems, but we heard about them from
our DEC FEs.
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
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