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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) |
| Date | 2015-12-03 20:39 -0500 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <mddegf3800o.fsf@panix5.panix.com> (permalink) |
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Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes:
> John Jackson wrote:
>> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message
>> news:87b081d0-efd3-4fe3-bf5b-fae910dd888b@googlegroups.com...
>>> If memory serves, the Digital VAX line (DEC10 and DEC20?)
>>> were popular mid-range computers.
>> Not clear what you are saying there. The VAXs were
>> a completely separate line to the DEC10s and DEC20s.
> Yes, but the OS command script language was quite similar, the HLL language
> variants were also quite similar. So, although the basic instruction set
> and general machine layout was quite different, it was possible for
> competent programmers to migrate their programs from DECSystem 10 or 20 to
> VMS in a very short time. They would grumble, of course, but it really was
> not hard.
Hmm. As a professional TOPS-20 and Tops-10 programmer (and yes, I still make a
living with that as part of my daily job!), I have to disagree about the
similarities among DCL, EXEC, and the command processor in the Tops-10 monitor.
Does VMS have command line completion yet? Question-mark help mid-command,
with automagic refresh of the command line to that point instead of retyping?
High-level language programmers don't generally have to worry about those kinds
of things, but they do occasionally have to worry about differences in integer
size, bit ordering, character representation, file system organization, etc.
They have reason to grumble if they have to port something to VMS, whether to
VAX, Alpha, or Itanic, from the PDP-10, whatever operating system it's running.
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
the russet leaves of an autumn oak/inspire once again the failed poet/
to take up his pen/and essay to place his meagre words upon the page...
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IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-12 14:31 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) mentificium@gmail.com - 2015-11-12 04:49 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 18:51 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-12 20:06 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-13 14:45 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-13 14:51 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-12 22:44 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-14 10:28 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-13 17:20 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-14 17:13 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-14 14:43 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-15 07:18 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-15 09:07 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-15 13:09 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-15 13:35 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-15 16:03 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 18:26 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-15 16:13 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 13:27 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-02 17:20 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-12-03 20:39 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 01:16 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:22 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-02 17:16 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-12-02 19:14 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 17:45 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-13 21:02 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 17:54 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 18:00 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-14 12:22 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-16 08:12 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 12:52 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-17 08:21 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 16:39 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-17 10:22 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-16 17:52 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-17 16:14 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-17 06:22 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 11:30 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-17 16:43 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-18 08:29 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-17 17:38 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-17 17:36 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-18 12:23 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-18 13:46 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:16 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-18 07:31 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:52 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-18 10:02 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-18 18:25 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-18 13:37 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-18 11:06 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-18 19:21 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-19 16:09 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-18 16:09 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-19 14:56 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-20 09:53 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-18 19:12 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-19 16:24 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-11-18 15:24 -0700
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-19 14:26 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-18 16:09 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-19 16:11 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-18 21:25 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-19 16:18 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-20 19:04 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-21 11:29 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 16:01 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-18 10:10 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2015-11-19 10:06 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 15:32 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-20 05:58 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 19:15 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-11-19 20:50 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-20 07:59 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-20 07:07 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-20 14:24 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-20 17:58 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-20 13:33 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-19 11:23 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-19 18:36 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-20 04:52 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-20 23:27 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-20 16:34 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-21 12:47 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-22 06:30 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-22 01:53 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-21 18:33 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-22 15:11 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-21 23:59 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-22 20:10 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-22 06:30 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-23 05:44 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-21 16:45 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-19 14:34 -0500
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-11-19 21:40 -0400
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-20 15:14 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-11-20 19:27 -0400
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-20 06:09 +0000
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-19 16:29 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-19 07:25 -0600
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-19 06:56 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-20 05:50 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) "hunar" <hunar@nospam.com> - 2015-11-19 16:36 +1100
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 18:29 -0800
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) Mike Hore <mike_horeREM@OVE.invalid.aapt.net.au> - 2016-02-07 13:25 +0930
Re: IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical) jfehlinger@comcast.net - 2016-02-22 16:21 -0800
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