Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter

Date	2013-04-23 02:33 -0500
From	Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com>
Subject	Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter
References	(8 earlier) <5175005f$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <mailman.908.1366635188.3114.python-list@python.org> <5175d450$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <mailman.943.1366678054.3114.python-list@python.org> <517620d4$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Message-ID	<mailman.961.1366702433.3114.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

Show all headers | View raw

On 2013.04.23 00:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>  Obviously you cannot display an X window without 
> X, well duh, but merely importing tkinter doesn't require an X display.
Importing it doesn't. Doing anything useful with it, however, does. Would you consider the engine an optional part of a car? After all, the
radio would still work and you can put things in the glove compartment.

> We just disagree on where to break the packages up.
We disagree on what a dependency is. I say a dependency is something required in order to have any functionality that is not defined as
optional or extra by the author(s). You say it's anything required in order to initialize, even if there is little to no actual
functionality. Perhaps you are fond of hunting down components to make something work, but most people would expect a packaging system to
automatically install whatever is required to make the software they want to use do what it is supposed to. Or perhaps you had a dummy
package in mind that would automatically pull in Tcl/Tk and X and whatever else is required to make tkinter draw things on a screen as a
convenience. Of course, that brings us back to the OP's problem...

Since Linux distros already include whatever third-party software they see fit as part of their base (or have the OS installer install
whatever the user specifies during installation), why not have desktop configurations include tkinter by default when installing?
-- 
CPython 3.3.1 | Windows NT 6.2.9200 / FreeBSD 9.1

Thread

Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter lcrocker <lee@piclab.com> - 2013-04-19 10:17 -0700
  Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 13:25 -0400
    Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter lcrocker <leedanielcrocker@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 10:30 -0700
  Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 12:35 -0500
    Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter lcrocker <leedanielcrocker@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 10:42 -0700
      Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 10:53 -0700
      Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 13:05 -0500
      Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Sibylle Koczian <nulla.epistola@web.de> - 2013-04-20 18:10 +0200
        Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-22 03:57 +0000
          Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 21:10 -0700
          Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 23:24 -0500
            Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 21:34 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 00:13 -0500
          Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 07:36 +0100
            Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-22 07:17 +0000
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 03:08 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-22 09:18 +0000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-04-22 14:52 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-23 00:22 +0000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 10:36 +1000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-23 04:03 +0000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 14:11 +1000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 19:47 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-23 05:49 +0000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 02:33 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 20:50 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 07:57 +0100
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 22:09 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-22 23:30 +0000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 07:44 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 05:01 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2013-04-23 07:33 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 16:41 +1000
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 07:48 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 17:34 +1000
            Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter lcrocker <leedanielcrocker@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 04:18 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 05:08 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 23:07 +1000
              Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 22:00 +0100
      Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 07:35 +0100
        Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 04:16 -0700
  Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2013-04-19 19:53 +0200
  Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-04-19 14:42 -0400
  Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-20 00:05 +0000

csiph-web