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Re: Hash stability

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Am 15.01.2012 17:13, schrieb Chris Angelico:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Heiko Wundram<modelnine@modelnine.org>  wrote:
>> I don't know the prevalence of suds, but I guess there's more people than me
>> using it to query SOAP-services - all of those will be affected if the
>> hash() output is changed. Additionally, if hash() isn't stable between runs
>> (the randomized hash() solution which is preferred, and would also be my
>> preference), suds caching becomes completely useless. And for the results,
>> see above.
>
> Or you could just monkey-patch it so that 'hash' points to an old
> hashing function. If the current hash() is kept in builtins as (say)
> hash_320() or hash_272() or something, then anyone who wants the old
> version of the hash can still get it.

Or even easier: overwrite the default caching module (called FileCache) 
with something that implements "sensible" caching, for example by using 
the complete URL (with special characters replaced) of the DTD as a 
cache index, instead of hash()ing it. ;-)

There's "workarounds", I know - and I may be implementing one of them if 
the time comes. Again, my mail was only to point at the fact that there 
are (serious) projects out there relying on the "stableness" of hash(), 
and that these will get bitten when hash() is replaced. Which is not a 
bad thing if you ask me. ;-)

-- 
--- Heiko.

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Hash stability Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-01-14 04:42 +0000
  Re: Hash stability Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-01-14 10:46 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2012-01-14 23:45 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 11:36 +1100
    Re: Hash stability Bryan <bryanjugglercryptographer@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-15 04:03 -0800
      Re: Hash stability Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 23:21 +1100
  Re: Hash stability Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-01-14 21:26 -0500
    Re: Hash stability Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-01-14 23:07 -0500
  Re: Hash stability Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2012-01-15 11:13 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2012-01-15 12:46 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-01-15 13:22 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2012-01-15 17:07 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-01-16 03:13 +1100
  Re: Hash stability Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2012-01-15 17:51 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2012-01-15 18:20 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-01-16 09:18 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Christian Heimes <lists@cheimes.de> - 2012-01-16 09:44 +0100
  Re: Hash stability Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2012-01-16 10:15 +0100

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