Re: Which Python editor has this feature?

From	Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Which Python editor has this feature?
Date	2016-01-12 03:27 -0500
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On 1/11/2016 8:09 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach
> <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Next IDLE feature request: Can you make it so that, across all
>>> platforms, it magically installs PostgreSQL and psycopg2? That would
>>> solve so many of my students' problems...

I detect an invisible smiley at the end of that.

PostgresSQL is not a Python package, hence would need a custom script to 
download and invoke, and would probably need user clicks anyway, at 
least on Windows.  Does/could psycopg2 have such for installing its 
dependency?

Can psycopg2 be installed with pip?  There is an issue (#23551) to make 
a pip GUI and make it accessible from IDLE.  We need someone with both 
pip and tkinter knowledge to either design and write it or mentor a GSOC 
student to do so.  One written, I would add an IDLE menu item to run it, 
in a separate process, just as done now with turtledemo.

>> Wouldn't this make the installer much bigger?

See invisible smiley ;-).

> Yes, and it's also completely and utterly inappropriate. But I am
> seeing a lot of cool magic getting added to Idle. Since I met Python,
> it's gone from being "well, yeah, Python *does* include a GUI, but
> it's pretty unexciting compared to others" to "Python includes a
> pretty decent editor, but it's (unsurprisingly) Python-specific, so I
> don't use it for multilingual work".
>
> Shout-out to Terry and the other Idle devs for the work they've put in.
 > Thanks!

Thank *you*.  It is sometimes thankless work.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

Thread

Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-10 17:59 -0800
  Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:58 +1100
    Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-11 03:04 -0800
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-11 16:21 -0500
        Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-11 17:51 -0800
          Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-12 02:55 -0500
            Re: Which Python editor has this feature? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 00:28 -0800
              Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-12 17:27 -0800
                Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 12:51 +1100
                Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-13 13:04 +1100
                Re: Which Python editor has this feature? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2016-01-13 00:04 -0800
                Re: Which Python editor has this feature? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2016-01-13 07:24 -0800
            Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-12 17:20 -0800
              Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-13 04:10 -0500
                Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-13 16:48 -0800
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 11:14 +1100
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:55 -0200
        Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 18:31 +0000
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:09 +1100
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-12 03:27 -0500
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 21:18 +1100
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-13 04:05 -0500
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 21:09 +1100
  Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-01-10 20:37 -0600
    Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-11 03:08 -0800
      Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-01-11 05:59 -0600
  Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 19:49 -0800
    Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Frank Haun <fh@fhaun.de> - 2016-01-11 11:54 +0000
  Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-11 19:40 +1100
    Re: Which Python editor has this feature? jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2016-01-11 03:16 -0800
    Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Fabio Zadrozny <fabiofz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 16:10 -0200
  Re: Which Python editor has this feature? Fabio Zadrozny <fabiofz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 16:09 -0200

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