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Re: PyWart: Module access syntax

Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Date 2013-01-11 21:46 -0800
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Subject Re: PyWart: Module access syntax
From Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com>
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On Friday, January 11, 2013 10:40:36 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Rick Johnson

> > *The problem:*
> > ... is readability. The current dot syntax used ubiquitously in paths is not conveying the proper information to the reader, and in-fact obfuscating the code.
> 
> Please explain how this is a problem. 


What is this importing?

   "import lib.gui.simpledialog"
 
...is that the "simpledialog module" or "SimpleDialog object"? Since naming conventions are not ENFORCED, we can NEVER be sure if an identifier is a object or module. And since object definitions (aka: classes) are often placed into a module with the same name, how are we to know? Why should we be forced to open source files to find out a small detail that proper syntax can easily provide?

This is a matter of READABILITY, Christopher. It's one or the other (or the status quo):

1. Enforce naming conventions.
2. Enforce path syntax.
3. Continue to obfuscate code.

The choice is yours.

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PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 22:01 -0800
  Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-11 16:02 +0000
    Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 20:34 -0800
      Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 15:40 +1100
        Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 21:46 -0800
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 16:59 +1100
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-12 06:53 +0000
        Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 21:46 -0800
        Re: PyWart: Module access syntax 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-12 16:02 -0800
        Re: PyWart: Module access syntax 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-12 16:02 -0800
      Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-12 06:45 +0000
        Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 21:22 -0800
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-14 17:34 +0000
            Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 23:07 -0800
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 11:51 -0700
            Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 23:49 -0800
              Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-01-15 19:08 +1100
            Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 23:49 -0800
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 12:04 -0700
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> - 2013-01-14 14:35 -0500
          Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 13:38 -0700
      Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 23:55 -0700
      Re: PyWart: Module access syntax alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 23:36 -0800
  Re: PyWart: Module access syntax Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 12:16 +0000

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