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Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute?

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On 08/30/2012 10:48 AM, Marco Nawijn wrote:
> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:30:59 PM UTC+2, Dave Angel wrote:
>> On 08/30/2012 10:11 AM, Marco Nawijn wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:25:52 PM UTC+2, Hans Mulder wrote:
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>>>> <snip>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>> Learned my lesson today. Don't assume you know something. Test it first ;). I have done quite some programming in Python, but did not know that class attributes are still local to the instances. 
>>
>>
>>
>> They're not.  They're just visible to the instances, except where the
>>
>> instance has an instance attribute of the same name.  Don't be confused
>>
>> by dir(), which shows both instance and class attributes.
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>>
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>> Please show me an example where you think you observe each instance
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>> getting a copy of the class attribute.  There's probably some other
>>
>> explanation.
> 
> I don't have an example. It was just what I thought would happen. Consider the following. In a class declaration like this:
> 
> class A(object):
>     attr_1 = 10
> 
>     def __init__(self):
>        self.attr_2 = 20
> 
> If I instantiated it twice:
> 
> obj_1 = A()
> obj_2 = A()
> 
> For both obj_1 and obj_2 attr_1 equals 10. What I thought would happen after the following statement:
> 
> obj_1.attr_1 = 12
> 
> is that obj_2.attr_1 also equals 12. This is what surprised me a little, that's all. 
> 
> Marco
> 

That statement only adds an instance attribute, not modifying the class
attribute of the same name.  But it does "hide" it from that particular
instance.

The thing that can be surprising is that if the class attribute is
mutable, and you mutate it, rather than assigning it.  So for example:

class A(object):
     attr_1 = [10, 9]

     def __init__(self):
        self.attr_2 = 20


 obj_1 = A()
 obj_2 = A()

obj_1.attr_1.append(3)

Then I believe you'll see [10, 9, 3] from both instances.
print obj_1.attr_1
print obj_2.attr_1



-- 

DaveA

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class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? 陈伟 <chenwei.address@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 03:55 -0700
  Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-30 07:53 -0400
    Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? 陈伟 <chenwei.address@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 05:57 -0700
    Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? 陈伟 <chenwei.address@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 05:57 -0700
  Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-08-30 13:22 +0200
  Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Marco Nawijn <nawijn@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 05:34 -0700
    Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 13:52 +0100
    Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-08-30 15:25 +0200
      Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Marco Nawijn <nawijn@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 07:11 -0700
        Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-30 10:30 -0400
          Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Marco Nawijn <nawijn@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 07:48 -0700
            Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-30 11:18 -0400
          Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Marco Nawijn <nawijn@gmail.com> - 2012-08-30 07:48 -0700
            Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-08-30 17:20 +0200
              Re: class object's attribute is also the instance's attribute? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-31 09:58 +1000

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