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Re: n00b question on spacing

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Date 2013-06-23 10:27 +1000
Subject Re: n00b question on spacing
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.3716.1371947263.3114.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> wrote:
> On 06/22/2013 07:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On the contrary, i18n should be done with config files.  The format
>>> string
>
>
> **as specified in the physical program**
>
>
>>> is the key to the actual string which is located in the file/dict.
>>> Otherwise you're shipping separate source files for each language --
>>> blecch.
>
>
> What I was trying to say is that the programmereze format string in the code
> is replaced at runtime by the French format string in the config file.
>
> But the language is missing the indirection I described.  So you have to use
> a (function or whatever) wrapper to look up the actual format string in the
> config file.  My point is by making that file equivalent to a dict, you get
> to have an executable program in "programmereze" before creating any config
> files, but still able to handle any real language with one config file per
> language.
>
> This is much preferable to the usual numeric lookup, where somebody
> specifies the 17th format string to be used at this place in the code. Even
> when you use C++ names, they're still only a crude approximation to the real
> purpose of the string.

What you're saying is that there are ways to ameliorate the problem
with i18n. What that means is that you broadly agree with my main
point, which is that the format string should be kept as close as
possible to the arguments. When you're NOT translating to multiple
languages, the string-literal is the most appropriate way to lay this
out, imo.

ChrisA

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Re: n00b question on spacing Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-22 14:36 +0100
  Re: n00b question on spacing Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-06-22 08:24 -0700
    Re: n00b question on spacing Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-22 16:40 +0100
      Re: n00b question on spacing Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-06-22 08:55 -0700
        Re: n00b question on spacing Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-22 17:11 +0100
    Re: n00b question on spacing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 09:12 +1000
      Re: n00b question on spacing Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-06-22 17:48 -0700
        Re: n00b question on spacing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 12:26 +1000
    Re: n00b question on spacing Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-06-22 19:28 -0400
    Re: n00b question on spacing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 09:37 +1000
    Re: n00b question on spacing Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-06-22 19:56 -0400
    Re: n00b question on spacing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 10:27 +1000
    Re: n00b question on spacing Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-06-22 20:46 -0400
    Re: n00b question on spacing MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-23 02:20 +0100
      Re: n00b question on spacing Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-23 02:58 +0000
        Re: n00b question on spacing Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-06-22 23:12 -0400
          Re: n00b question on spacing Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-23 03:22 +0000
            Re: n00b question on spacing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 13:36 +1000
            Re: n00b question on spacing Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-06-23 09:43 -0400
        Re: n00b question on spacing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 14:09 +1000
    Re: n00b question on spacing Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-06-22 21:35 -0400
    Re: n00b question on spacing Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-06-23 11:40 -0400

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